Lace sensors?

[rspst14]

Hey guys, has anyone tried these pickups? Do they sound like vintage single coils, or would I be better off going with traditional passive pickups for my Strat project? I know they make a few different models, any tips on which ones I should check out? Are there other noiseless single coil models I should check out? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Ryan

 

[flank]

Re: Lace sensors?

check out Kinman single coils...ive play a strat with a set and it was pretty impressive for being noiseless

 

[adrian]

Re: Lace sensors?

I like the Laces. The original Gold Lace sounds "vintage" but is somewhat smoother than ordinary single coils. The Laces often have more sustain due to their magnet construction, which makes it possible to put them very close to the strings. The Hot Golds have some more bottom end, and a throaty organic sound, which I´ve found useful, and they are almost noiseless.

 

[fusion101]

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flank got it right, if you want quiet vinatge single coils you have to get kinmans. The laces to me sound fake and un-natural(it's hard to explain it), its like a cardboard attack.

 

[flank]

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i liked the kinmans alot......but lace is also worth checkin out.....they have a unconventional sound, but its not bad. lemme just put it this way, i dont want more than one guitar with lace pickups in it, but i wouldnt mind havin ONE just because they have a differnt and cool vibe...

 

[Fusion1]

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Ryan, I have 2 of the original Gold Lace pickups and they sound pretty nice for clean with a more modern tone than Fender singles but plenty glassy.

I haven't tried the new Hot Gold's and I guess there are neck and bridge flavors of those I might have to try soon enough.

Have you tried Fender's noiselss? I have a noiseless neck in my Tele and I like it alot.

 

[kmcguitars]

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flank got it right, if you want quiet vinatge single coils you have to get kinmans. The laces to me sound fake and un-natural(it's hard to explain it), its like a cardboard attack.

I agree, They do sound good , But maybe strerile is the word? It is hard
to explain. I've got a Strat setup with laces for recording, But I haven't used
it yet on any recording. I'm still inclined to grab the Strart w/t the APS- II??

 

[rspst14]

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Thanks guys. Can various types of noiseless pickups be used in the same guitar without any problems, assuming all three are passive pickups?

Ryan

 

[Brow]

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I had a set of Lace Sensor Gold's in my Fender Strat Plus. While they did sound good, I agree with what other people have said about them having a 'fakeness' to them.

I traded mine out for a set of the Antiquity Strat pups and haven't looked back

 

[Kent S.]

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The lace sensors are good pups, they are there own thing though, and they are a little diffferent than a single coil ... I like them, but they are there own thing, I haven't used the Kinman pups, but they come highly regarded. The DMZ V.V. series are nice, some good options tonally, and a bit truer to the single coil sound than the LSs I think, Then come the HS series, which they are a convential stack though, and as such don't quite nail the single coil sound. I've never used to LSs mixd with any other pup type, so I couldn't comment on any issues pertaining to that. Of the others though, there shouldn't be any problems other than standard phase issues.

 

[Sweet Leaf_Sabbath]

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I think lace sensors (every single one of them) sound fake. a few of my friends with strats have all lace sensors and they just sound nasty....just faker than breast implants....heheh

 

[butnut]

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I had the Lace Golds in my Strat and they sounded glassy, I have no idea what some guys are saying about 'fake'? They have their own vibe as Fusion said, which I like and only have one guitar with them. I later replaced it with the Lace Holy Grails which have the staggerd poles and get an awesome Strat tone from those pups, I only need one Strat and those Lace pups suit me just fine.

 

[jeremy]

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i have a custom set of hot golds. a 8.2k neck pup which is very warm and sings well with overdrive. a 7.2k middle pup that does the more vintgey strat thing well, i keep this one lower than either of the other pups and it sounds great clean. the 14.4k bridge pup is a great rock lead tone

 

[Bludave]

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I play two Clapton Strats, the older ones with the Lace sensors. I like the sound of these guitars a lot. If you are looking for a vintage sound then look else where. These PUPS are hotter than a standard single coil, and the preamp adds to that. The preamp help smooth out the tone a little even if it is off. They lack a certain..... warmth that you get with a vintage pup. I would consider Fralin Blues specials or Standards if the vintage sound is what you want. I love all the Duncan stuff too, but Fralin single coils are pretty hard to beat!!

 

[Fusion1]

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I think the only ones that won't like the sound of these pickups are vintage purists. To me they are almost idealized (sp?) single coils. ~ Beauty is in the ears of the tone-freak.

 

[rspst14]

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Thanks guys...I've decided on using at least one Lawrence L-280S, although I'm not sure what position to put it in. I'm thinking of also using a Kinman, and then maybe a gold or Holy Grail Sensor. As a side note, I really like the tone Pete Townshend gets from the Strats he uses live. The Lace Sensors he has still retain the vintage Strat sound, but they also have a slightly more modern tone. I recently downloaded a video of the Who's performance from the concert for NYC, and his tone sounded amazing. If you've never seen it, I highly recommend looking for it on your favorite P2P network. Anyway, the tone he has on the solo for "Baba O'Reiley" is exactly the neck tone I'm looking for. Bright and glassy, but enough warmth to avoid any shrillness. I know he uses stock Clapton Strats, so I'm assuming that's the gold Lace Sensor I'm hearing.

I've heard nothing but good things about the Lawrence noiseless single coils, and the Kinmans seem to get good reviews as well. I should probably start a separate thread for this, but does anyone have any experience with the Kinman or Lawrence noiseless single coils? Thanks.

Ryan