Les Paul Axcess Stoptail - worth it, or Gimmick?

zizyphus

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Hey team!

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience playing the Les Paul Axcess Customs, and if so, whether the Axcess heel joint makes a noticeable difference when accessing the upper frets and whether the thinner body has a significant affect on the sound.

I've made some sales recently, and have been saving for a while, and I think I'd like to spoil myself with a new Lester. I'm an LP player at heart, and my Gold Top is my baby, but she could use a sister to keep her company. I'm eyeing an LP axcess stoptail, but they're impossible to find in stores to demo, so without being able to readily get my hands on one, I'm wondering if you all have any experience with them (I'm not interested in the Floyd rose, but rather, the stoptail version, because I want that girthy LP low end, and I don't really use trems)

I play plenty of "weedily wees," so upper fret access is fairly important to me. That said, I've been playing LPs for ~20 years now, as my first "real" guitar was an MIK Epiphone that I loved, played for years, sold, and occasionally still miss. All that is to say that I can "get buy" playing the upper frets on a traditional LP, but am wondering if the axcess heel joint will push me over the to edge to feeling downright comfortable in the upper register.

As far as tone goes, we all know how THICC a proper LP sounds. I'm wondering whether the thinner body on the Axcess – supposedly 6mm thinner – detracts significantly from that sound. I know some folks will say that pickups are the PRIMARY driver of your sound, or that "everything contributes to your sound soooo of course it will affect it," but I guess my question is more about whether I would feel like it sounds like a proper Lester, or some other derivative that just has the same shape.

Thanks in advance!
 
I played one of the Epiphone Les Paul Moderns with shaved heel, and disappointingly, did not see much of an improvement in upper fret access. If I'm in a shredding mood I switch to my PRS Custom 24.

The thinner body really shouldn't make a difference when they're already weight relieving the bodies. I think the pickups will have a bigger impact- Alnico 2's are fat and mellow, 5's, ceramics, 4'ss 3's are clearer but thinner
 
I never played one and don‘t feel the need to. In fact all my strat trems are blocked anyway. I think needing badly a FR on a guitar is a kind of attitude to life. Though i heard even EVH like to play a Les Paul Deluxe …. without trem.
 
If yours has humbuckers, get some P90s in the next one and have fun :)

Double cutaway? Les Paul Junior perhaps??

Just living vicariously through you.
 
I wouldn't mind a nice p90 gold top, though I'd definitely have to invest in a p100 or another noise-cancelling option (at least for the bridge pickup)

I never played one and don‘t feel the need to. In fact all my strat trems are blocked anyway. I think needing badly a FR on a guitar is a kind of attitude to life. Though i heard even EVH like to play a Les Paul Deluxe …. without trem.

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I think anything they do to improve the ergonomics of any legacy model is most likely a good idea. If they do simple things that marginally affect the sound, but improve the playability, then I am cool with it.
 
When I got my first PRS McCarty, I was quite surprised how much difference an extra 1/8" in body thickness made.
It really does make them feel and sound noticeably closer to a Les Paul compared to the thinner body models.
That said, it might be different when it comes to Les Pauls.

I've never played a stoptail Axcess - actually didn't even know there was such a thing.
And of course on a regular one the Floyd is going to make more difference than any other feature.

The LP Studios have a shallower body too I think. Maybe a side by side comparison could shed some light on the tone issue.
As for the carved heel, it might help a little bit but it can't alter the fact that the LP is still a fairly deep body.
Not really too surprising tome that jmh151 didn't notice a night-and-day difference on a shaved-heel Epi.
 
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