Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

Re: Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

Yes, a more modern take on the les paul concept is nice ( I currently have a pair of LTD ec1000s, one with a contoured heel and love them both just as much as the gibsons I previously owned ).
What I dislike about the HP model is the silver fittings but I suppose I could easily get them changed.
What kind of weight relief is on the HP model?
At a push I would get one as a modding platform.
The 2018 HP does not appeal due to the rear mounted pickups.

I agree that the silver fittings are ugly. But as you say... A couple of pickup rings and some new knobs would sort that out.

The 2017 Traditional HP does not have any weight relief. But it wasn't too heavy, the weight was normal LP territory.
 
Re: Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

Ace is right. 2015 aside (and plenty of people like the 15's FWIW), there are no good years or bad years. I've spent a lot of time over at My Les Paul the past 6 months or so since this board isn't as busy as it once was, and I've learned a lot.

There are great guitars built every single year, and many more good Les Pauls than bad ones. Also, remember that what I consider a so so top and a sound that is a bit too bassy will be someone else's perfect Les Paul. There are very, very few built that truly sound awful or are completely unplayable due to QC issues. Gibson isn't THAT bad, even now. Most of the belief that Gibson quality sucks comes from false internet rumors repeated ad nauseam. Yes, there are a few bad ones every year, but your chances of getting one is very low.

If you can't play before you buy, it's not the end of the world. I've bought every Les Paul I've owned over the internet and they've all been really good to fantastic. Unless you buy certain year model Traditions like Joe suggested, every USA model Les Paul will be weight relieved. Weight relief began in the early 80's. Traditional's are most like the Standards of 10+ years ago, but the new standards with compound radius are starting to gain a loyal following. No, it's not traditional, but it works for many other guitars, so why not on a Les Paul.

Just do your research and decide what features you want and don't want and then shop from there. One of the absolute best buys out there are the 57' Reissue LP 's. You can get them in the low to mid $2k range US, are not weight relieved, made with lightweight wood and custom shop quality. The catch is you need to like gold or maybe black.

If I were not buying a reissue, I would look for a Traditional or Classic with the features and top I wanted, or perhaps a Standard from 2011 or earlier. I can't remember exactly what year they started messing with the Standard's features. I wouldn't give a 2nd thought to weight relieved or not. It's nice to have if that's important to you mentally I guess, but no one can tell the difference, and I mean no one. You will likely change pickups, especially if you're a member of this board, so don't worry about what pups come with it. Custombuckers only come on Reissues if my memory is correct. You may want to upgrade to an aluminum tailpiece or an ABR, or maybe you want locking tuners and new pots and caps, but the little things can be changed if you so desire.

Again, just decide on the features important to you, find one with a top and color you like and then buy it, regardless of the year. You're 95% sure to get something you're really happy with. The worst possible outcome is you don't love what you get and need to resell it and try again. You'll likely be out very little money and only some time.
 
Re: Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

Maple and mahogany have different characteristics. AFAIK 75-49 Les Pauls had maple necks, I'd expect stiffer, more dense, different natural frequency, and a change in inherent damping. I'm not saying they should be avoided, but I would anticipate them being a bit different than the more traditional mahogany necked les paul.
 
Re: Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

I think maple necks ad a lot to a Les Paul. Much brighter IMO, and the three piece gluing is super-duper strong.

But ids it a huge difference? Maybe yes, maybe no. Depends on the two Les Pauls.
 
Re: Les Paul, best recent models, and which ones to avoid?

I would say that, other than for certain characteristics you might not like, there's no true "era" of Gibson Les Pauls that you should avoid on paper.
There's guitars you'll like better than others, but it's up to preference, really.

I've tried several Gibsons, some have been amazing, others haven't very good. But it's been a unit to unit thing, in all price ranges. So go and try and many Les Pauls as you can.
You might end up with a freakin' Epiphone of all things, who knows?
 
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