LES PAUL ISSUE! TROUBLE IN PARADISE! OH NO!

[astrozombie]

Eveytime I try to do fast pull offs on the high e string in the style of Paul Gilbert or Alex Lifeson, my high e string is falling in the tiny space between the frets and the binding and the note just kind of dies.

is this typical or is my guitar forked?

 

[Shooter.556]

Re: LES PAUL ISSUE! TROUBLE IN PARADISE! OH NO!

Pics please.. I can't diagnose what I can't see.. I think that speaks for most of us.
What year of Les Paul? You mat have popped a fret but I can't tell without pictures..

 

[Securb]

Re: LES PAUL ISSUE! TROUBLE IN PARADISE! OH NO!

Sounds like you popped a fret. Glueing it back down with a drop of krazy glue will fix it.

 

[GuitarDoc]

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Sounds like you have a Gibson.

Your frets are probably ok, it's just that Gibson's poor quality control allows for some discrepancy in fit of the neck binding.

You can place some super glue in the space between fret and binding (allowing it to harden) in several applications until it is entirely filled. Then file/sand it smooth.

It's a problem I have had with even an expensive Gibson LP, but is easily fixed this way.

 

[AlexR]

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^ Yep. The glue used for the binding is great wood-plastic, but not so great plastic-metal, especially as they are protrusions. Gibson also has much fatter binding nowadays so the string is a fair bit closer to the binding than back in the day.

 

[Nuts]

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Maybe you just pull the string down, instead of releasing it ?
Does it happen on other guitars, or just this one ?

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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Nothing wrong with your guitar. Your LP has binding over frets which is by far the worst way of doing binding. Gibson said that they started doing it to prevent string getting caught between the binding and the frets, but given that this happens with your LP and my uncle's SG, both of which have BoF, it just makes it easier to do that.

 

[Boogie Bill]

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Is your guitar properly humidified????

A guitar that is too DRY (which easily occurs in colder months, as furnaces get ramped up) can cause fingerboard problems, even on a bound-neck guitar. Put the guitar in its case with a hygrometer for a couple of days, and if the RH is below 45%, it's time to get some moisture in there.

I would check this before I started slinging glue all over the place.

Bill

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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Nothing wrong with your guitar. Your LP has binding over frets which is by far the worst way of doing binding. Gibson said that they started doing it to prevent string getting caught between the binding and the frets, but given that this happens with your LP and my uncle's SG, both of which have BoF, it just makes it easier to do that.

While they call it binding over the frets, it's actually that the fret is not as wide as it should be, and the pieces cut off the ends are replaced with binding nibs. If not done correctly, there will be a gap between the end of the fret and the nib.

If it's a new guitar and you can, return/exchange it for one with better work, or preferably regular fretboard binding that the full-width frets seat into.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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While they call it binding over the frets, it's actually that the fret is not as wide as it should be, and the pieces cut off the ends are replaced with binding nibs. If not done correctly, there will be a gap between the end of the fret and the nib.

If it's a new guitar and you can, return/exchange it for one with better work, or preferably regular fretboard binding that the full-width frets seat into.

Okay, so then there is something wrong and Gibson ****ed up again?

 

[astrozombie]

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Sounds like you have a Gibson.

I have laughed, so hard, you cannot imagine.

Thank you for that solution.

 

[astrozombie]

Re: LES PAUL ISSUE! TROUBLE IN PARADISE! OH NO!

Is your guitar properly humidified????

A guitar that is too DRY (which easily occurs in colder months, as furnaces get ramped up) can cause fingerboard problems, even on a bound-neck guitar. Put the guitar in its case with a hygrometer for a couple of days, and if the RH is below 45%, it's time to get some moisture in there.

I would check this before I started slinging glue all over the place.

Bill

 

[GoldenVulture]

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HAVE YOU CALMED DOWN YET ? ^^^

 

[Boogie Bill]

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Um...should I be offended?

Bill

 

[Securb]

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Looks like UberMetalDude is back