Les Paul Switch Wiring

Giaco

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Hi every one,

I have a simple question.
I did the 50's wiring with all the shielded wire and so on. I got a ground loop and a noise prolem.
My question is: Can I use the wire showed in the pic, to wiring the toggle switch?

Thankyou
Davide
 

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Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

Hi every one,

I have a simple question.
I did the 50's wiring with all the shielded wire and so on. I got a ground loop and a noise prolem.
My question is: Can I use the wire showed in the pic, to wiring the toggle switch?

Thankyou
Davide

in theory you could, assuming you mean the wiring from the toggle to the two vols. note, that one of the wires would be unused... but I would say connect the ground wire (sheild/bare) and the green to the ground of the switch. do not connect the ground/bare on the side by the volumes as this would create a ground loop. use the green as ground at that point.
also, on the volume side of things... two wires will need to go to the jack (green and live). if you trim those wires at the vol and continue on w/o the shield to the vol jack that would not be ideal. you really want that live shielded from the in jack all the way to the three way. so that isn't going to stop it from working... but it may not be ideal in terms of keeping noise at a min. does that make sense?

a better idea would be to use two conductor shielded for all three connections IMO.
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

Three passes of two-con + shield may not fit through the channels of some guitars.

If four-con + shield is what you have, it makes sense to use that. One idea that you could use is;
White = first pickup
Black = second pickup
Red = combined output
Green = ground to one volume pot
Bare = ground to second volume pot.
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

Ok, thank you. Another question/idea (?!!) I had: What if I use:
1 wire for Neck pickup
1 wire for Bridge pickup
1 wire for jack
And 2 wires connected to the toggle switch ground, so that 1 can go to 1 of the pots and 1 to the ground of the jack?
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

Three passes of two-con + shield may not fit through the channels of some guitars.

If four-con + shield is what you have, it makes sense to use that. One idea that you could use is;
White = first pickup
Black = second pickup
Red = combined output
Green = ground to one volume pot
Bare = ground to second volume pot.

just (humble) pointing out that if you do this you do not want those two vol/tone pots grounded together anywhere.
they are mounted in the body (ie grounded to the body), and if you have a shield they will be grounded together... and even if not wood does conduct to some degree... this plus two ground wires to the 3-way switch would create a long ground loop. may not even notice it, but it would def push you in the direction of ground noise. no offence, and not to contradict you.
ok, I'll shut up now and go away.
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

just (humble) pointing out that if you do this you do not want those two vol/tone pots grounded together anywhere.
they are mounted in the body (ie grounded to the body), and if you have a shield they will be grounded together... and even if not wood does conduct to some degree... this plus two ground wires to the 3-way switch would create a long ground loop. may not even notice it, but it would def push you in the direction of ground noise. no offence, and not to contradict you.
ok, I'll shut up now and go away.

No, it won't cause any problems at all. The wood does NOT conduct enough electricity to even notice. Even if it did, connecting the pots won't hurt a thing. Go ahead and connect all the pots together and to ground.
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

I understand. The pots will be connected together, or with the mounting plate, or with a buss wire, i don't know yet. So they will defo be connected together...
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

If your pots are linked by a common, hard-wired, ground, a single ground connection between one pot and the selector switch will suffice.

If the opening post had included a photograph of the guitar controls wiring or specified the manufacturer, its grounding path would have been apparent.
 
Re: Les Paul Switch Wiring

I didn't post a photo, you're right. But my guitar is a gibson les paul classic (2006) so it is well known...
 
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