Les Paul wiring question

[Mike Reeves]

If a Les Paul is wired in the vintage 50's style, will a treble bleed circuit have any effect or is a treble bleed circuit only effective on modern wiring?
I have coil splitting on both pickups.

 

[VinceT]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

If a Les Paul is wired in the vintage 50's style, will a treble bleed circuit have any effect or is a treble bleed circuit only effective on modern wiring?
I have coil splitting on both pickups.

It'll have some effect, but in my experience 50s wiring is enough.


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[AlexR]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

50's wiring works by not overly loading the pickup as the vol is dropped.
Treble bleed works by passing through a certain frequency band almost irrespective of the vol control.

The 50's will always sound more natural as it maintains balance.....not to mention it doesn't mess with the vol pot function.
Where it starts to cause issue is that the tone control then starts to act as vol control to a degree once both are away from 10.

 

[Mike Reeves]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Thanks, that's what I was thinking. I tried it and I could't hear any difference. I'm ripping out the circuit board and replacing it... just tryingn to get all my answers before I do.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

I've heard that before ... people reporting that they cant hear a difference between 50's and modern. Every 50's wired guitar I have retains the treble much better when rolling off the volume. The tone control interaction is a side effect but workable once you know how things react/interact. I finally took the PCB out of a LP yesterday ... just waiting on long shaft pots. It's getting wired 50's without a second thought.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

There is very little difference at vol 10. Its only as you turn down that the differences become apparent.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Well, pots came yesterday (Amazon Prime). Wiring done. One pot is "bad". Works fine but rotation isn't smooth, has a couple of rough spots in the rotation. At least it's a tone pot so it will be an easy swap.

Hmmm ... looks just like a Les Paul control cavity now.

 

[megaup987]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

What did you use for insulation on the capacitors? Looks like push back wire insulation. Do they sell just the insulation or you just took the conductor out?

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Yeah, it's the cloth from push back wire scraps that I keep.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

That is a cool idea, and it looks neat. I have to try that sometime.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Thanks. I've probably seen hundreds of photos of the cloth on the capacitor leads so I cant take credit for it. I don't know what possesses "us" to try and make our wiring look purdy when it's going to be covered by a black, plastic cavity cover ... :dunno:

 

[Mincer]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Right? You'd think that on an expensive guitar they would use a wood cover. With magnets. Or at least machine screws.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Les Paul wiring question

Well, that LP isn't expensive, for a LP. It's a 2013 Tribute. But, that brings up a good point. After a while I'll end up doing so much tinkering, removing and replacing the covers that I'll end up needing to stuff toothpicks in the screw holes for the screws to grip. Little inserts and machine screws would be nice. But Gibson is skimping by skipping out on the toggle rings so I doubt they are going to consider the extra couple dollars in parts and labor to use threaded inserts. Anyway, my original point was why we bother to make the wiring look good when we never see it because it's covered up. Maybe see through Lexan covers is the way to go ...