Less-bright 12"?

[Rich_S]

I've decided the Celestion G12H80 (OEM cousin of the Classic Lead 80) I have in my 18 Watter combo is too piercing in the highs. I like the clarity in the top, but it's just too much treble.

What would be a good 12" to try in its place? Something that will soften the highs, but not fuzz them up. I'd prefer to keep the bottom tight, and don't want a honky midrange sound. Am I making any sense?

Bonus points if your suggestion is readily available on the used market.

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Eminence Cannabis Rex. Clear highs without any piercing sound. Pretty even through the lows and midrange, without any honk. If you want to stick with Celestion, maybe a g12h30.

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Eminence Cannabis Rex. Clear highs without any piercing sound. Pretty even through the lows and midrange, without any honk. If you want to stick with Celestion, maybe a g12h30.

+1 to the Rex. This speaker really smooths out the treble.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

i love the rex and it will sound great in your little amp

 

[Rich_S]

Less-bright 12"?

Less-bright 12"?

Wow, consensus. Unanimous, even.

Has that ever happened on the Internet before?

Yeah, I'll start looking for a used C-Rex. In the meanwhile, rather that just accept the consensus for what it is, I'll stir things up. I always thought I'd like the G12H30, but the one I tried long ago was where I got the term "honk".

Also, Greenback. What about it doesn't match up with my description back in post 1?

 

[jeremy]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

greenbacks are bright but not shrill, dont have a lot of bottom and the mids can be honky with some amps. many people think they sound thin in 1x12 combos but with the right amp i like em a lot. i have a little 12w amp with a greenback that i use frequently and like it a lot. the crex has a bigger bottom and fuller sound overall, also is more efficient

 

[Davii]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

The Texas could be an alternative to the Rex, though I've yet to come across anyone say anything negative about the Rex

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

I've tried a greenback in a small 1x12 open back combo. It sounded honky and all mid-range.

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

if not the cannabis, then the texas heat.
Actually, seeing as it is a marshally kind of amp, i'm gonna say texas beats the crex. Crex for a fender. The texas has a bit more "muscle" in the sound, where the cannabis has a bit more ass. Both are cool and i'm sure you'll be happy with either.
its what ive got in my bluesbreaker type amp. Ive also tried the crex, a pair of greenbacks, private jack and g12h30 in it.

 

[Frogman]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Swamp Thang sounds right up your alley. I have one in my '71 Deluxe Reverb.

 

[ZSSelectronics]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Greenback is rather bright, but Less than Classic Lead
Celestion Vintage 30 is the most balanced guitar speaker.

Recommend you Celestion V30 and Fane Axa or Medusa

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Greenback is rather bright, but Less than Classic Lead
Celestion Vintage 30 is the most balanced guitar speaker.

Recommend you Celestion V30 and Fane Axa or Medusa

I find the V30 to be a tad on the bright side myself.

 

[Condemnedsoul]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

If you are thinking of the V30, try the Eminence Governor the V30 equivalent. Seems to have a smother high end than the V30 to me. But of course, I have them in different amps.


We realize that specs on paper often aren't anywhere near where the equipment meets the road. Here are links to the manufacturer's web pages.

http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=Cannabis_Rex

http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=Texas_Heat

http://www.eminence.com/pdf/Governor.pdf

http://www.eminence.com/pdf/Wizard.pdf

 

[Animal]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

The new Celestion A-Type seems suitable for what you're looking for. They're designed to be clear and balanced without a harsh top-end.

http://celestion.com/product/144/atype/

 

[jeremy]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

the texas heat is another good option. there are TONS of speakers out there and you can drive yourself nuts trying to find the perfect one. crex or texas heat, see which you can find used and grab it.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

All of these replies hit the mark 100%..BUT..if ya wanna just quit pussyfooting around, spend the extra money and snag yourself a Eminence 'Red Coat -Red Fang'. You really have no idea how great this speaker sounds broken in. It has the voicing of the great Celestion Alnico Blue very well down pat.IMO.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

I have a C-Rex and I love it, but I'll tell ya, the sound clips of the Red Fang http://www.eminence.com/support/tone-guide/?model=Red_Fang have a lot more top end bite without being shrill.

 

[iamthesuck]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

I started a very similar thread a little bit ago, and at the risk of overbumping my thread when there's a similar topic...

I will be swapping at least one of my 2x12 Fender HRD speakers for a C rex. The other would either be C rex, swamp thang, or texas heat. I like smooth and clear sounds, and I play a lot of grateful dead, phish, funk, reggae, old school hard rock... just jam music. Which of the 3 (or wildcard) would you all recommend for the second 12''?

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

I pair my C. Rex with a V30 . . . it's an awesome combo for any type of music that gets thrown it's way. The C. Rex mellows out the harshness of the V30 enough to work nicely doing jazz, blues, and funk and the V30 gives a nice little upper mid-rangy kick that works well with your harder rock and classic metal types of stuff. They're both nice speakers that complement each other really well when you add them together.

 

[Rich_S]

Re: Less-bright 12"?

Yeah, Steve, that's what I'm thinking. Right now, I have two very similar speakers, the G12H80 and a the Jensen Electric Lightning that came in my (used) Lopoline cabinet. They are both high-powered, clean, bright speakers. I figure if I sell off one of them and replace it with something like a C Rex, I'll have a good pair that covers two different sounds, plus a great combination when I run the two cabs together.