Lets talk Boogie

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Adam

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Well I found a dealer very close to here! And after getting some help from fellow forum bros they have recommended a Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier and they have it priced at:

Head: $1699.99 (4x6l6's, 12x7, 2x5u4) I'm sure you tube heads knew this part.

Cab: $899.99 (Slant 4x12 V30's)

Anyway I play metal, I want some sharp tone, not brittle or trebley but some sharp tone. So this is what they have, I'm very excited, and just wantin to jerk my jackson off the wall and run down there. But they are closing, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow morning.

Any input would be of such help! Already alot of you guys have pointed me in the right direction. And I'm always open for any advice to the desires I have.

And yes its alot of money, but I've been saving. I'm looking for some Combos too. But this isn't my final decision but man am I looking forward to plugging into it!
 
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They do kind of rip it to people on the amps, their guitars they price very well. And since I do alot of business with them, all my pups, my strat, hell even my practice amp I've had for years. All through them.

So maybe I can talk the price down, but hey man I just want to hear it. My amp hunt has started. I've played through a Peavey Surpreme while looking for a JSX and was disappointed, it kind of tickled my fancy, but not enough.

I played through a siletto and was discouraged, this DR. I'm looking forward to it.
 
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I know what you mean. I didn't mean to sound harsh, I just meant alot of us like to try alot of different gear so it may be wise to buy used so if you get tired of it you won't lose too much if anything. Good luck on your hunt and I hope others chime in about the Boogie's. I hope I didn't derail it...........
 
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Hell no bro :)

I'm psyched that I found one, cause around here finding some gear you all talk about just isn't going to happen. So hopefully this will be everything its hyped up to be!
 
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Never played the new 3 channel version... but I played the old version. It's doing what you describe very well!
It'S said the old version sounds better and some like the recto better with marshall cabs. So if you in store check it out with different cabs!
 
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I dont here much difference between the 2 channel and the 3 channel. The 2 channel was a bit more looser IMO. I would be more inclined to check out more cabs though. I believe the Recto cabs are a bit oversized and have alot of low end. Most of my experience is with the single. Great for the money on ebay.
 
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you can definitely get good tone out of either the 2 channel or 3 channel version. the general concensus is that the 3 channel models tend to sound a little grainer, and the 2 channel models sound more raw and organic. you just have to ask yourself if you really need the third channel. i have a 2 channel model, and while i really love the tone i'm getting from it, sometime i wish i had the thrid channel. but i got it used for a decent price, so it's not something i regret doing. although i've never played a 3 channel model outside of the store, they do sound good and there's nothing wrong at all with those current models.

also, the preamp tubes in the 2 channel model only have the shield/cover on V1, all the rest of them are not shielded. the V2 slot is pretty sensitive to what tube is in there as far as noise goes...i had an annoying buzzing/humming thing going on when you would mute the strings (basically sounded like 60 cycle hum) and it occured over both channels. after taking it into a tech to see what was causing the noise, he found that it was the tube that was in that slot, after swapping out about 10 tubes before he found one that was quiet. i'm not sure how many of the pre-tubes have the shields in the 3 channel models, but it's just something to look out for.
 
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MESA tone tips (IMO)

1) Stay away from MESA cabs. Go Marshall. or Avatar or something else. They are built incredibly well but they are dark and sterile.

2) Set all knobs at noon to start. Rarely will you ever need to go past 2 oclock with ANYTHING on a Mesa unless you like totally oversaturated, flubby, icepicky sound...or have an axe that is sorely deficient in bass/mids/highs.

3) Learn how the knobs interact. It TAKES TIME. And a little goes A LONGGGGG way on a MESA.

4) RTFM!

5) Be prepared to decrease other values to add something else (i.e...say you want more mids...try decreasing bass/and or treble first).

Go into a MESA knowing all that and you will be amazed how good they sound and how versatile they really are once you "learn" them. Go in with a Marshall/Fender type tweak mentality and you'll be very disappointed.
 
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+1 jeff's post, except the cab part....I find that untrue, but whatever.

Play the head with your guitar in the store through a bouch of different 4x12's and if you like the head, get one off of eBay. They're always on eBay. Depending on what cabinet you like, either get one used or if you have enough that you saved by getting the head used, get a new cab.
 
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I dig Mesa cab's, but +1 to the rest. Might want to try your mids knob down though. Despite that Recto's are known for their inherently scooped tone, most people saying that are Marshall junkies.


1700 is average street price for the head, 900 is average for the cab. You won't be able to talk them down at all, I garuntee it.

go used! You can get the head for 1200, and the cabinet for 600, all day!



As for older vs new 3ch... Would you people stop posting this stupid ****? I mean, come on, especially if you haven't tried one!

They sound different, yes. If you set them up identically, one of them will sound like ****, yes. They probably have different tubes in them.

I will say that the newer ones have more grind to the top end. Whether that's good or not is your choice.
 
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Go down and play it, but I also recommend buying used just because they're plentiful on the market and it'll save you a lot. However, all that new equipment smells GREAT! It's actually quite wonderful... Also, consider that Mesa's newer products utilize a 5 year TRANSFERABLE warranty, which means it's still active through multiple owners - that is if you decide to go with the used market.
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Be careful with the knobs, as stated many times before. Be patient with them. It's always a good idea to forget everything you ever knew to be true when dialing in a Mesa...just go by your ears.

Work from the treble down, it shapes the rest of the controls.

The treble and presence controls will be the two most important controls on the amp.

Don't be surprised if your bass control is at 9:00...it's a Mesa.

I always try to keep the master volume down and pump the output control for the volume. That will help lose some of the buzziness you get from too much preamp distortion.

Lastly, just enjoy it. It's a great amp if you can utilize what its got going for it and it really can feel awesome, which we all know is as important as the tone itself.
 
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I have a Triple Rectifier Solo head and it is awesome through both my Marshall 1960AV and VHT Fat Bottom 4x12 cabs. Can't compare with my Pitbull but this rectifier kicks butt in its own way. I wouldn't worry about the 2 channel sounding better. The 3 channel has a raw, vintage and modern mode for channel 2 (gain) and 3 (lead). The vintage on the channel 2 can dial in some very nice "Brownish" type tones. It also has switches in the back for power boost and diode which also affects the sound. You can pretty much dial in a lot of tones. Except for clean the clean pretty much sucks but clean is not what I bought this amp for. It can get muddy pretty quick though if you go crazy on the gain in the modern mode of either channels.
 
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By the way I had to pay full price for mine. The GC I go to gives me deals all the time but they would not budge with this one. They did not charge tax though.

One thing I need to mention...on ebay you can find a used dual road king for about the same or even less then the price of a new dual rectifier. I have not played one but I heard one and it rocks.
 
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oldschoolrock said:
Except for clean the clean pretty much sucks but clean is not what I bought this amp for.
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This is where it gets subjective.

I get a good (not great, but very good) clean sound out of my Rectoverb, IMO. Very good for a clean strat tone, especially.

As mentioned umpteen times before, you have to dial carefully, but the sound is in there if you are willing to spend the time to find it.
 
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DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
As for older vs new 3ch... Would you people stop posting this stupid ****? I mean, come on, especially if you haven't tried one!

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Ive got to agree here. People say they dont like it just because it is different. Everyone hated JCM900 and 2000 when they came out bet then you are able to tweak them. My advice, I have been on an amp search for over a year now and can not find what is perfect for me. When it comes to tone, dont settle.
 
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