Liberator + 3 way blade??????

[reneisgod]

Hi, I'm trying to install 1 bridge 1 neck humbucker, 1 vol no tone pot! with a 3 way blade selector.

According to the Seymour duncan wiring diagram page this can't be done or at least there isn't a diagram available for this set up.
yet there is a diagram if you select 3 way toggle instead?

Can this be done? can someone please help me as this is very frustrating
I can't see it stated anywhere on the seymour duncan web site that it can't yet i really need the diagram
to put this together.

thanks

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

Welcome to the forum.

The Duncan site doesn't have a drawing for everything that is possible, only what has been common so far. For simple changes, you are on your own to combine drawings and work out specifically what to change. In your case, just use the Liberator drawing that has the 3-way toggle and replace that part of the drawing with a 3-way blade diagram - refer to the 3-way switch translation drawing for what it takes to swap a toggle for a blade.

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...ent/uploads/2016/05/Liberator_2H_3G_1V_1T.pdf

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...n.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2H_3B_1V.pdf

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/3-Way-Switch-Translation.pdf

 

[reneisgod]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

nightmare! i am fairly new to wiring up humbuckers and this is already giving me a headache.
does anyone have the time to kindly put an exact diagram together for this setup?
'' just use the Liberator drawing that has the 3-way toggle and replace that part of the drawing with a 3-way blade diagram''
you make this sound so simple lol, iv'e had a look and tbh its confusing the hell out of me!

 

[Mincer]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

Welcome to the forum!

We have some good wiring people here, so sit tight, and they will be able to help you out. Are these Duncan pickups?

 

[reneisgod]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

Yeah mate jb - jazz set

 

[reneisgod]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????



Hey guys, after several attempts im very confident i have the wiring correct. im left with 1 last issue.
my 3 way selector switch behaves as follows;

position 1 - bridge
position 2 - neck
position 3 - neck

obviously id expect position 2 (centre) to be a combination of bridge and neck.

any suggestions?

also worth mentioning the 3 way selector is also solderles which i bought on ebay;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solderless-Alpha-Pickup-Switch-For-Tele-and-Strat-Style-Guitars-3-and-5-Way-/361830059555?var=&hash=item543ec08e23:m:m3KH_snxy-GwF0AMaTP5MSQ

 

[reneisgod]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

Hi again, just an update i tried another 3 way switch and it works fine now
as for the solderless switch on ebay my advice would be to stay away from those.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

How does a solderless switch work, anyway?

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

About the same way as a Liberator, from the picture.

I really don't get the confusion with the Liberator. Granted I have not used one myself, and only saw the clearly illustrated diagram which clearly indicates color-coded input terminals for the pickups and equally-color-coded output wires to whatever else you've got in a control cavity, such as any sort of pickup selection switch, be it 3-way toggle, 3-way blade, or 5-way super switch - so maybe I'm missing something important by not having one in my hands? Is this something someone at SD needs to review? Maybe make sure the clearly-illustrated diagram and the Liberator physical product itself match up?

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Liberator + 3 way blade??????

Welcome to the forum.

The Duncan site doesn't have a drawing for everything that is possible, only what has been common so far. For simple changes, you are on your own to combine drawings and work out specifically what to change. In your case, just use the Liberator drawing that has the 3-way toggle and replace that part of the drawing with a 3-way blade diagram - refer to the 3-way switch translation drawing for what it takes to swap a toggle for a blade.

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...ent/uploads/2016/05/Liberator_2H_3G_1V_1T.pdf

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...n.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2H_3B_1V.pdf

https://docs.google.com/gview?embed.../uploads/2016/05/3-Way-Switch-Translation.pdf

nightmare! i am fairly new to wiring up humbuckers and this is already giving me a headache.
does anyone have the time to kindly put an exact diagram together for this setup?
'' just use the Liberator drawing that has the 3-way toggle and replace that part of the drawing with a 3-way blade diagram''
you make this sound so simple lol, iv'e had a look and tbh its confusing the hell out of me!

It's as simple as reading children's books.

Since you have to start by connecting the pickups to the Liberator, use the Liberator diagram to connect the pickups to it.

Then, since the Liberator has to go to the 3-way blade switch, use any diagram that shows how to connect two 4-conductor Seymour Duncan pickups to a 3-way blade switch.

Both diagrams will have Duncan's color-coding - Red, Green, White, Black, and Bare. It doesn't matter what graphical element of the diagram these wires are coming from - single coil, mini humbucker, humbucker, bass pickup, P-Rail, JB Jr, etc etc - as long as there are 4 plus the bare wire. If you see an orange wire, you're looking at the wrong diagram.

Simply follow along with the color coding of the "two 4-conductor pickups of any shape or number of coils to a 3-way blade switch" diagram, and pretend the wires to the blade switch are the wires from the Liberator.
Really it can't get more simple than that.