Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
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Laughing Kookaburra
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
The Seymour Duncan Everything Axe set uses a lil 59 in the neck (JB Jr bridge), so I will assume that it is suitable for the neck. I've only used it in the bridge.
I think you'll be fine in terms of the K rating. Playing with the pickup heights should get you to where you want to be.
The Seymour Duncan Everything Axe set uses a lil 59 in the neck (JB Jr bridge), so I will assume that it is suitable for the neck. I've only used it in the bridge.
I think you'll be fine in terms of the K rating. Playing with the pickup heights should get you to where you want to be.
hareek
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The Lil '59 comes in a bridge version and a neck/middle version. The everything Axe set uses a Lil' 59 neck version in the neck position. This poster is asking about using a Lil '59 bridge version in the neck position.
To the OP, I'm not sure how it will sound. I have a Lil '59 neck version at the neck and love it. It can get muddy but I tweak the tone knob on the guitar and tweak the amp settings to adjust accordingly. I would think the bridge version would be brighter in the neck position than the neck version but maybe I'm wrong.
The Lil '59 comes in a bridge version and a neck/middle version. The everything Axe set uses a Lil' 59 neck version in the neck position. This poster is asking about using a Lil '59 bridge version in the neck position.
To the OP, I'm not sure how it will sound. I have a Lil '59 neck version at the neck and love it. It can get muddy but I tweak the tone knob on the guitar and tweak the amp settings to adjust accordingly. I would think the bridge version would be brighter in the neck position than the neck version but maybe I'm wrong.
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Rand-O-Monium
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Laughing Kookaburra
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hareek
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
I always thought bridge pickups are made to be brighter than neck pickups but I'm guessing where I'm wrong is neck pickups are made to be brighter to compensate for the naturally darker tones of that pickup position, and vice versa for the bridge position?
No problem. And I just want to point out I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you with that post. I just meant to clarify the question as I understood it. Not saying you took it the wrong way, but reading back through it myself it seems I was a little harsh in my response.
I always thought bridge pickups are made to be brighter than neck pickups but I'm guessing where I'm wrong is neck pickups are made to be brighter to compensate for the naturally darker tones of that pickup position, and vice versa for the bridge position?
No problem. And I just want to point out I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you with that post. I just meant to clarify the question as I understood it. Not saying you took it the wrong way, but reading back through it myself it seems I was a little harsh in my response.
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Laughing Kookaburra
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
Na, you were fine!
Na, you were fine!
jumble jumble
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All I would say is to be sure use 500K pots, and it should be fine.
All I would say is to be sure use 500K pots, and it should be fine.
hareek
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The Lil '59 is designed to work with 250k pots though. And again correct me if I'm wrong, a 500k pot wont make the sound any brighter as a tone knob turned to 10 produces the same sound whether it's a 500k or a 250k pot. It's the low end that changes as you dial the knob back to 1.
The Lil '59 is designed to work with 250k pots though. And again correct me if I'm wrong, a 500k pot wont make the sound any brighter as a tone knob turned to 10 produces the same sound whether it's a 500k or a 250k pot. It's the low end that changes as you dial the knob back to 1.
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jumble jumble
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
This particular Little 59 is designed to go in the bridge position too though, so we're obviously prepared to think outside the box a little here.
hareek
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True. But see my edited post above. Am I missing something?
True. But see my edited post above. Am I missing something?
jumble jumble
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
A 500K tone control will too: when the tone is turned to 10 then the full resistive strip in the pot is what's stopping the treble being bled out. So a 500K pot will stop more treble getting out than a 250K pot will. If this is difficult imagine replacing the pot with a resistor. Obviously putting a truly massive resistance in there will block more treble than say putting in a 0.5K resistor.
The exception to this is no-load tone pots which cut the connection completely when they're turned to 10.
A 500K volume pot will obviously make the sound a bit brighter.
A 500K tone control will too: when the tone is turned to 10 then the full resistive strip in the pot is what's stopping the treble being bled out. So a 500K pot will stop more treble getting out than a 250K pot will. If this is difficult imagine replacing the pot with a resistor. Obviously putting a truly massive resistance in there will block more treble than say putting in a 0.5K resistor.
The exception to this is no-load tone pots which cut the connection completely when they're turned to 10.
Edgecrusher
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Isnt this backwards? A 250k will cut off more highs than a 500k will.
Isnt this backwards? A 250k will cut off more highs than a 500k will.
jumble jumble
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You're saying a 250K lets more through, I'm saying a 500K blocks more. We agree.
You're saying a 250K lets more through, I'm saying a 500K blocks more. We agree.
Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
500k pot is brighter sounding than a 250k pot
a bridge model of a pup will usually have more turns of wire which gives it a less bright tone and more output compared to the neck version. if you put a 59n in both the neck and bridge positions, that same pup will sound much brighter and have less output in the bridge than the neck at the same distance from the strings. the 59b has more turns of wire to fatten up the sound and get better output balance in that position
500k pot is brighter sounding than a 250k pot
a bridge model of a pup will usually have more turns of wire which gives it a less bright tone and more output compared to the neck version. if you put a 59n in both the neck and bridge positions, that same pup will sound much brighter and have less output in the bridge than the neck at the same distance from the strings. the 59b has more turns of wire to fatten up the sound and get better output balance in that position
Artie
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Just to clarify, a 500k blocks more of what gets dumped to ground. Thus, it allows more to go out the output jack. A tone control on "0" is a dead short. Zero resistance to the cap. Its like having the cap soldered direct across the output jack.
Just to clarify, a 500k blocks more of what gets dumped to ground. Thus, it allows more to go out the output jack. A tone control on "0" is a dead short. Zero resistance to the cap. Its like having the cap soldered direct across the output jack.
hareek
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GregJr
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Re: Lil 59 bridge in neck slot....
Thx for the input guys. I just scored a Lil 59b for 40$ CAN. Couldn't pass it up.
Here a some pics. Plastic cover is cream(??) and measures +/- 12.57 K.
Seems bizarre as the website states it measures 11.78 K.
And cream cover??? I thought SD only used white covers? Doesn't look like the covers on my white JB and SVR's.
Thoughts??
Anyhoo, will be installing it in neck position of my Strat with JB hb in bridge and SVR mid. With 500K pots.
Hoping it will not be too muddy!
If it is, will be trying a Hot Rails.
Thx again.
Thx for the input guys. I just scored a Lil 59b for 40$ CAN. Couldn't pass it up.
Here a some pics. Plastic cover is cream(??) and measures +/- 12.57 K.
Seems bizarre as the website states it measures 11.78 K.
And cream cover??? I thought SD only used white covers? Doesn't look like the covers on my white JB and SVR's.
Thoughts??
Anyhoo, will be installing it in neck position of my Strat with JB hb in bridge and SVR mid. With 500K pots.
Hoping it will not be too muddy!
If it is, will be trying a Hot Rails.
Thx again.