Line 6 m13 thorough (sort of) review

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Let me preface this by explaining the "sort of". The m13 is a very, very, very powerful device with 72 effects models, a 30 second looper, and massive configurability. This review is not thorough in the sense that I have not tried every single model, nor have I used the looper much or tried it in every possible way it can be hooked into my rig. Honestly, I am content to use the m13 the way I am using it without getting too deep into what it can do.

That said, I have now done three rehearsals and one gig with the thing, and I think I'm experienced enough with the m13 to give it a good review.

The Basics

- Effects ONLY, no amp or cab models.
- Contains all the models from the DL-4, DM-4, MM-4, and Verbzilla.
- Four "strips" with three foot-switchable effects each for a total of 12 effects presets available with one click.
- One effect per strip can be on at a time; in other words, up to four effects at a time.
- Any effect model can be set to run on any strip. You can have a board full of delays if you want, or put an overdrive, a chorus, and a reverb on one strip, or any combination you can think of.
- There are also "scenes" which are similar to banks on other multi-effects units. Each scene can have a completely different set of effects on it, which means a total of 144 possible effect presets.
- It has a built-in looper which can record up to 30 seconds of sound. You can insert the loop at any point in the effects chain.
- The master tap tempo switch sets the tempo for any time-based effect you want.
- True relay bypass is available (more on that later).
- It has a tuner, an effects loop (more on that later), and so many options.

Controls and Setup

Line 6 could not have made the m13 more intuitive and logical if they tried. Each effect "strip" is kind of like a mini-multi-effects unit that can store three presets and run one effect at a time. The knobs at the top of the strip are the effect's controls, and the LCD screen indicates what each control does and where it is set. The screen is color-coded to indicate the type of effect you are running, and it's very readable in both dark and bright conditions.

Here's what really sets it apart from programming on other multis. After you switch an effect off, or switch to a different one, your knob settings persist (i.e. the m13 remembers how you set it) without you having to hit Save or anything. Basically, it's just like having an actual pedal, except you have three of them magically squeezed into one box, and you have four of those boxes bolted together. If you really hate yourself and want to have to hit Save every time you make a change, there is an option in the system settings that allows the m13 to work that way, but I personally LOVE the setting persistence option. It is one of the things that makes the m13 feel like a "real" pedal board.

The other thing that makes the m13 feel "real" is the fact that almost anything you want to do is either foot-controlled, or set with a knob. Switching effects on and off works just like a pedal. Changing parameters works just like a pedal. No menus, no scrolling, no click buttons, none of the usual trappings of multi-effects units. Even the looper can be controlled entirely with the feet. There is a setup mode, but it is activated by holding down the tap tempo switch, and each option is controlled with ... you guessed it: a knob. It's the best of both worlds: you get the intuitive look and feel of a pedal board and the versatility and power of a rack unit.

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Connections

The m13 can be hooked into your rig in almost any way you can imagine. It has stereo input, stereo effects send, stereo effects return, and stereo output. The effects loop can be placed at any point in the m13's effects chain: before everything, between any of the strips, or after everything. You may not see the point of the effects loop right away, but it enables you to do a lot of awesome things with the m13, such as:

- Hook up "real" pedals between your m13 effects.
- Run some of your m13 strips in front of the amp, and some in your amp's effects loop (this is exactly what I do with my Stiletto Ace).
- If you have two amps, send some of the strips to one amp, and some to the other amp.

There is one caveat, however, and this has to do with the true bypass mode. The m13 can run in true relay bypass, which means your signal goes straight from input to output when everything is off. Unfortunately this only works if you do NOT use the effects return jack, since the effects loop is entirely in the digital realm. If you use the DSP bypass mode, you end up having your signal going through the DSP conversion at all times, but it enables all the fancy schmancy effects loop options.

For what it's worth, I heard no difference in bypass tone whether I was using true bypass or DSP bypass through my rig. Both were very clean and quiet, and sounded no better or worse than going straight into the amp.

Another caveat: the m13 allows for stereo operation, but I don't know for certain if it's true stereo (meaning two fully independent signal paths as opposed to two inputs summed to mono in the engine). I can test this if anyone's curious.

Tone

I've always thought Line 6's strength was effects modeling. Vox seems to be kicking their butts on the amp modeling front (I have a Valvetronix VT30 that I adore), but Line 6 effects keep showing up on a lot of pro touring pedal boards.

In terms of tone and sheer variety, the m13 is Line 6's masterpiece. I've auditioned a ton of the effects models in this thing, and nothing so far has jumped out at me as being crappy-sounding. On the contrary, the verbs and delays in particular are beautiful. Every delay model sounds pretty much exactly how you'd want it to. Myself, I am partial to the Tube Echo model in front of my amp for a squishy, touch-sensitive echo, and the good ol' Digital Delay in the effects loop for big leads. Reverb quality is every bit as good as the Verbzilla, if not better (probably because the m13's buffering is better than the Tonecore pedals).

The other make-or-break effects for me were the phasers and flangers. "How are the phasers and flangers, rd," you ask? Well, did you happen to see my Phase 90 for sale on The Trading Post? I think that pretty much says it all. I've also been having a lot of fun with the choruses, and went so far as to add the Dimension D model to my live setup. Synth and filter effects are plenty of fun, but I really have no use for them in my current band. The thing I love about the m13, however, is that if I ever want a synth-y sounding thing, I've got a bunch ready to go.

The real surprise for me is how good the od/disto models sound. I'm a pretty big analog snob when it comes to distortion effects, and I doubt I'll ever give up my dirt pedals, but a few of the drive models are very, very good. The Tube Screamer model is good enough that you'd probably fool me blindfolded on a bad day. There are compressors as well in the drive category, and I have really not given them their due, but the one I did try (Vetta Comp, I think) was not too shabby.

Bottom line: I have zero complaints about tone, and am actually over the moon with how good some of these models sound.

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Anyway, I thought I would finish up with a listing of how I have the m13 hooked up, and what models I've got set up for my current band.

Basically, my rig goes like this:

1. Guitar
2. EB VP Jr
3. BYOC Wah
4. BYOC Optical Comp
5. BYOC Octave Fuzz
6. FTL Drive
7. Boss BD-2 w. Monte Allums mod
8. Korg Pitch Black

->

m13 Input
m13 Effects Send

->

Mesa Stiletto Ace input
Mesa Stiletto Ace Effects Send

->

m13 Effects Return (I know, it's kind of confusing, but bear with me)
m13 Output

->

Mesa Stiletto Ace Effects Return
Mesa Stiletto Ace 8 ohm out

->

Ear Candy Buzzbomb (Emi Governor and Emi Wizard)

= Sonic bliss


m13 setup

Strips 1 and 2 are in front of my amp. Strips 3 and 4 are in the amp's effects loop.

Strip 1:
- Opto Tremolo (eighth notes)
- Tube Echo (quarter note triplets)
- Q Filter (parked wah)

Strip 2:
- Analog Flanger
- U-Vibe (eighth note triplets)
- Phaser

Strip 3:
- Dimension D
- Analog Delay (slapback)
- Digital Delay (eighth notes)

Strip 4:
- Tile verb
- Chamber verb (fairly moderate)
- Hall verb (very deep)
 
Re: Line 6 m13 thorough (sort of) review

That was a rather incredibly dashing good review, thanks man
I knew a pedalbuilder would know all the little things I wanted to find out

INSTANT BAD GAS

the settings persistence!!!
strips in front and/or strips in the loop!!!!
all knobs and buttons!!! (which is why I gave up on ny Rocktron Xpression)
cool display!!!
sweet delays and verbs!!!

but

I also gave up on my MM4 cuzza the volume differences of some of the fx, the phasers in particular if I recall....Do you think I would notice anyrthing like that?

These are around 400 bucks right? Why aren't we all buying them?
 
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also is there such a thing as a master bypass, like if I have 8 things going and I wanna turn em all off or bypass them all at once
 
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i love mine, and ive used it at every gig for a year- and a lot of sessions as well. PV, no, you can't- first, you can only have 4 things going on. You can go into a scene with no effects on, and then it is true bypass...but think of it as having to turn 4 pedals off- it isn't a typical multifx, in that it doesn't have presets which include a string of effects.

my rig is slightly easier- guitar, m13, amp (tech21 trademark 60). Ive been using it for gigs with the jazzy blues band as well as my ambient weirdo looping stuff.
 
Re: Line 6 m13 thorough (sort of) review

That was a rather incredibly dashing good review, thanks man
I knew a pedalbuilder would know all the little things I wanted to find out

INSTANT BAD GAS

the settings persistence!!!
strips in front and/or strips in the loop!!!!
all knobs and buttons!!! (which is why I gave up on ny Rocktron Xpression)
cool display!!!
sweet delays and verbs!!!

but

I also gave up on my MM4 cuzza the volume differences of some of the fx, the phasers in particular if I recall....Do you think I would notice anyrthing like that?

These are around 400 bucks right? Why aren't we all buying them?

So far I haven't noticed any volume dips when using the effects I use, but I will pay closer attention next time I use it and get back to you.

I bought a scratch 'n dent model for CAN$525.

also is there such a thing as a master bypass, like if I have 8 things going and I wanna turn em all off or bypass them all at once

No master bypass (unless you count hitting the power switch on the back ... btw signal will still flow through the m13 when it has no power).
 
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also is there such a thing as a master bypass, like if I have 8 things going and I wanna turn em all off or bypass them all at once


i love mine, and ive used it at every gig for a year- and a lot of sessions as well. PV, no, you can't- first, you can only have 4 things going on. You can go into a scene with no effects on, and then it is true bypass...but think of it as having to turn 4 pedals off- it isn't a typical multifx, in that it doesn't have presets which include a string of effects.

If you use it in "latch" mode it'll work this way, just got one Friday! As from the advanced user's guide below, there are advantages and disadvantages to running it this way.

Latch Scene Mode
In Latch Scene mode, the only difference is when you step on the Scenes switch, the 12 Scene names remain in the LCDs. Any Scene you select will be loaded the same way, but you won’t see it’s FX displayed in the LCDs. To bypass the Scene, step on its switch again. The advantage to Latch Scene mode is, you’re always 1 switch away from selecting a new Scene. The disadvantage is, if you want to tweak or bypass any of the individual FX, you’ll have to exit Latch Scene mode first by stepping on the Scenes switch.
 
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...gave up on my MM4 cuzza the volume differences of some of the fx, the phasers in particular if I recall....Do you think I would notice anything like that?

So far I haven't noticed any volume dips when using the effects I use, but I will pay closer attention next time I use it and get back to you.

I noticed the M13 has "level" knobs that I don't recall the MM4 having

would prolly solve any such problems, eh wot? Bob's your uncle?
 
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I noticed the M13 has "level" knobs that I don't recall the MM4 having

would prolly solve any such problems, eh wot? Bob's your uncle?

It doesn't really have level knobs. Some effects have a level setting, some don't.

One interesting thing is that since there are MIDI ports on the m13, Line 6 is able to release firmware upgrades for it like with the Pods. You plug it in to a USB/MIDI interface (which can be had for around $30 - $50) and use a sysex program to upload the firmware. Quite a few of the patches so far have dealt with normalizing the levels of certain effects, so maybe they're addressing this thing you've experienced.
 
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BTW, the rumor is that the firmware will be updated in Oct.
 
Re: Line 6 m13 thorough (sort of) review

It doesn't really have level knobs. Some effects have a level setting, some don't.

One interesting thing is that since there are MIDI ports on the m13, Line 6 is able to release firmware upgrades for it like with the Pods. You plug it in to a USB/MIDI interface (which can be had for around $30 - $50) and use a sysex program to upload the firmware. Quite a few of the patches so far have dealt with normalizing the levels of certain effects, so maybe they're addressing this thing you've experienced.

I'm a fairly new M13 owner and just did the firmware upgrade to 1.07. FWIW, I bought a USB/MIDI interface off EBay for $9.95 shipped and it worked perfectly. Can't wait for the next firmware.
 
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