Listening to Solid State Amps and Digital Pedals for even fairly long periods....

Teletubby

Teletubby

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makes my ears sick...my whole head just feels funny...like I dont want to hear it anymore...its almost revolting. If I play my digital pedals (even really good quality ones) or play SS amps for more than an hour, it makes me feel sick...I dont know why. I can play my marshall jcm2000 for 3 hours and not feel sick. Maybe there are health benifits to having a tube amp?

I need to listen to tubes again....aah....good ol' tubes....
 
Re: Listening to Solid State Amps and Digital Pedals for even fairly long periods....

What SS amps are we talking about, precisely?

Mine doesn't give me any headache. If anything, it cures headaches! :27:
 
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ChileanGuy said:
What SS amps are we talking about, precisely?

Mine doesn't give me any headache. If anything, it cures headaches! :27:
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Rolands, Fenders, Ibanez, etc...really anything solid state. its sort of weird. it might be because they are just cheap amps...I dunno. but even listening to stuff done with line6 equipment make me sick. Lol
 
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solid state and good shouldn't be in the same sentence...jk


btw...that video somebody posted of solid state sounding good....well maybe for metal and stuff like that...but for a just slightly dirty tone...a tone just when a amp breaks up....only tubes work for me.
 
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Teletubby said:
solid state and good shouldn't be in the same sentence...jk


btw...that video somebody posted of solid state sounding good....well maybe for metal and stuff like that...but for a just slightly dirty tone...a tone just when a amp breaks up....only tubes work for me.
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I agree completely. Solid State can work great for all out metal or clean...not really inbetween.
 
Re: Listening to Solid State Amps and Digital Pedals for even fairly long periods....

Welcome back, J.
 
Re: Listening to Solid State Amps and Digital Pedals for even fairly long periods....

I get the same thing too. Maybe on a subconcious level the harshness of non-tube sound does something to the head. But only with my digital effects pedal.
 
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Markk said:
I get the same thing too. Maybe on a subconcious level the harshness of non-tube sound does something to the head. But only with my digital effects pedal.
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yeah EXACTLY...for some reason my head feels kinda like stuffed and just unpleasant...its almost like a very dull headache. and you feel sort of depressed a bit...and even a little nauseus....maybe thats an exaggeration...but still.
 
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I have a slight hypotheses....with solid state amplifiers and pedals...maybe you have to turn up the volume more to get the same amount of clairity..and maybe THAT'S what is causing the headaches...

hypothesis 2:

Solid state amplifiers do not reproduce the chimey good wonderful harmonics and frequencies that tube amps do.

hypothesis 3: solid state amps are really, secretly, hypnotic devices used by the government to make all solid state playing musicians into mindless zombies that play death metal and vote democratic.
 
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You only get "harsh" with SS if you don't understand the power dynamic. You don't want to clip SS. So you need some headroom. 3db is the accepted minimum. 10db is better.

3db makes your 60 watt amp, 30 watts.
10db makes your 60 watt amp, 6 watts.

If you need 40 watts of clean SS power . . . you "need" 400 watts.
Fortunately, thats still less expensive than 40 watts of tube power.

Having said that . . . I like my buddy's 20-watt H&K tube amp more than my 60-watt H&K SS amp.
But I still like my SS amp. ;)
 
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ArtieToo said:
You only get "harsh" with SS if you don't understand the power dynamic. You don't want to clip SS. So you need some headroom. 3db is the accepted minimum. 10db is better.

3db makes your 60 watt amp, 30 watts.
10db makes your 60 watt amp, 6 watts.

If you need 40 watts of clean SS power . . . you "need" 400 watts.
Fortunately, thats still less expensive than 40 watts of tube power.

Having said that . . . I like my buddy's 20-watt H&K tube amp more than my 60-watt H&K SS amp.
But I still like my SS amp. ;)
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even at low volumes it annoys me though dude...there cant be much clipping then right?
 
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Teletubby said:
even at low volumes it annoys me though dude...there cant be much clipping then right?
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Right . . . you want no clipping. And, there are different quality levels of SS. A good 800-watt Crown amp, into a Celestion Blue, makes a "nice" bedroom amp. :D
 
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ArtieToo said:
Right . . . you want no clipping. And, there are different quality levels of SS. A good 800-watt Crown amp, into a Celestion Blue, makes a "nice" bedroom amp. :D
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well of course there will be some clipping...its part of what makes a tube amp sound good...if I remember correctly anyway. but I mean, whatever makes solid state harsh on the ears, that is what I don't want.

just a quick question...does a 800 watt crown amp use a lot of power? I know that ampage is like the amount of actual energy right? 800 watts just sounds like a lot of wattage lol...
 
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I meant . . . you want no clipping with SS. You definitely want clipping with tube. Thats the difference. ;)

I was continuing in your light-hearted vein. You probably wouldn't need 800 watts in a bedroom. :D

You'ld probably only use a watt or so in that environment. Tube or SS. ;)

(You take me too seriously.)
 
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ArtieToo said:
I meant . . . you want no clipping with SS. You definitely want clipping with tube. Thats the difference. ;)

I was continuing in your light-hearted vein. You probably wouldn't need 800 watts in a bedroom. :D

You'ld probably only use a watt or so in that environment. Tube or SS. ;)

(You take me too seriously.)
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I didnt mean to respond in a way to offend you. :(

sorry about that
 
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Teletubby said:
I didnt mean to respond in a way to offend you. :(

sorry about that
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You didn't offend me. What gave you that impression? No . . . I just didn't mean to get so technical in a light-hearted SS bash. :D

The confusion was my fault. I'm an expert at confusion. Blame it on the beer. :beerchug:
 
Re: Listening to Solid State Amps and Digital Pedals for even fairly long periods....

Wierd. I like my Echo Park, I don't notice any digital harshness. (Although I do like my analog pedals and tube amp...)
 
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