Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

[Snoogles]

the guitar is tuned to D-flat, and it sort of sounds like there's something going on right before the sustained D-flat power chord that opens this song. can somebody sus out what's going on? is it Db with the added octave on the fourth string (Db-5 is it?) and then the Db power chord? is it D-major => Db? i can't tell. i have tin ears. i've always learned by tabs. this whole "figuring stuff out by ear" thing is very intimidating and fatiguing; going over and over and over and over the same 2-3 second section again and again and again. anyway, here's the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6GHvFx_B_Y

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Where exactly are you talking about? What minute or second? Left or right channel?

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Where exactly are you talking about? What minute or second? Left or right channel?

The first chord at the start of the song. It sounds like the Db power chord has some precursor chord. Which channel? I dunno?

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

All I hear is both guitars hitting one big fat drop Db chord together, and then the dude on the left channel sliding up and hitting a single note in D on the A string and then sliding it down to a B all while the guy in the right channel holds his original Db chord.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Nothing really sounds crazy or out of the ordinary to me.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

I mean, you realize that is two different guitars doing that don't you? There's one track on the left side doing something, and there's another track on the right side doing something as well.

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Nothing really sounds crazy or out of the ordinary to me.

I mean, you realize that is two different guitars doing that don't you? There's one track on the left side doing something, and there's another track on the right side doing something as well.

No, its not very crazy or complicated at all. I feel kind of stupid posting this thread. And yes, there are two guitars in the band.
So it sound to you like its Db played twice.
Interesting, maybe my ear wants to complicate things?

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

There could be the possibility that between both guitars tuned down that low, and the bass being that low as well, that someone could have hit the strings too hard or something, caused them to be a bit floppy, and therefore you might be hearing something a tad out of tune. However, I'm just not hearing it.

I mean let's just pretend that it's you and I playing this song. You are on the right side of the speakers and you hit that huge downtuned Db and hold it. I am on the left side of the speakers, I hit that huge Db and then do the sliding to D and then B. I think you just may be over complicating things. Unless my ears are screwed up, I'm just not hearing it.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Hopefully someone else will chime in and either correct me or agree with me.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

And don't feel stupid for posting the thread. As has been stated on this forum many times, the only dumb question is the one you never ask.

 

[Kam]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Nah, I'm with Jolly. I think you're just hearing the attack and over-complicating it.

I have ****ing terrible ears though, so I could be wrong.

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

here's a live clip. start at the 0:40 second mark and take a look at his fretting hand (full screen might help):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GcAOd5eKhQ

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

I see what you're talking about, but I still can't here it. I think he's just holding his hand there in that position while hitting the Db.

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

I see what you're talking about, but I still can't here it. I think he's just holding his hand there in that position while hitting the Db.

ok, this makes my life much simpler. and we have confirmation with KAM.
i'm going with a simple Db

 

[Lampy H]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Yeah, all I hear are two Db power chords.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

There is also a bass guitar root note going on.

I know nothing of this band. Specifically, I do not know whether the bass guitarist plays a four string, tuned down to Db/C# like the guitars or a five string in conventional BEADG tuning. (Admittedly, the latter would be a serious head**** for unison riffage.)

The other thing that I do not know is the position of the studio recording in the running order of the album. If the previous song runs straight into the beginning of this one, you could be hearing the reverb "tail" of the immediately preceding audio content.

Extreme distortion does introduce overtones that can be heard but are not fretted.

It is tempting to want to believe that our favourite bands are more musically sophisticated than they actually are. Some of my favourite music is exceedingly dumb but still manages to entertain.

Tablature transcriptions can contain errors. Case in point, Led Zeppelin "Whole Lotta Love". Every full band transcription that I have seen shows the bass guitar making the fifth and seventh fret move then thudding away on the open low E. On the studio recording, you can clearly hear the E one octave above. It is not fuzzed. It is not Page. Jones hits both strings to fill things out. (A trick well known bassists in trios.)

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

I don't here anything irregular either

 

[Lampy H]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

Tablature transcriptions can contain errors. Case in point, Led Zeppelin "Whole Lotta Love". Every full band transcription that I have seen shows the bass guitar making the fifth and seventh fret move then thudding away on the open low E. On the studio recording, you can clearly hear the E one octave above. It is not fuzzed. It is not Page. Jones hits both strings to fill things out. (A trick well known bassists in trios.)

I watched a video with JPJ and he mentions that nobody ever gets this right. He also hits the D note on the fifth fret as well as the open D in unison.

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

well thanks for all the help.
now how do i figure out the fast part after the slow intro that comes in around 1:30?
i think i have the notes in what ever that crazy scale it is their using.
i'm not even going to attempt the solo parts.

 

[Snoogles]

Re: Looking for a tip - Opening Chord(s) to song (metal content)

i think this process has helped tune my ear in a bit... at least to this particular song.

any ideas how to figure out the rest of it? the fast part that starts around 1 minute, 30 seconds?

gratitude and accolades would be festooned upon all those who contribute advices and/or tabs.