Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

[orpheo]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

I think it's safe to say that few guys have experimented with as many 3 pickup Les Pauls as I have. My findings are this.

use a good bridge and neck pickup, just the ones you like. Use a low output neck pickup in the middle and wire each coil to a push pull pot. if you lift the push pull pot you engage that coil by routing it to a volume pot of a humbucker. So, when you get that quacky tone going on when you split the other humbuckers with a second push pull pot, you get a nice, clean tone that you can roll down if you need. or if you don't coilsplit it, you warm up the tone a bit, just a bit, without losing definition.

But that's just me. what the heck do I know. I just own 20 3 pickup les pauls.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

But that's just me. what the heck do I know. I just own 20 3 pickup les pauls.

Even so, most of us are accoustomed to the tones of bridge and neck HB's, and aren't totally enamoured with the sound of middle HB's. I think for most players, the biggest attraction is looks more than sound. But that's just me...

 

[Docrock]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

Even so, most of us are accoustomed to the tones of bridge and neck HB's, and aren't totally enamoured with the sound of middle HB's. I think for most players, the biggest attraction is looks more than sound. But that's just me...

I cant see me ever using the middle myself, but I dont want a open hole or a dead pup in there, to me something has to be going on

thanks for all the tips!

 

[orpheo]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

Even so, most of us are accoustomed to the tones of bridge and neck HB's, and aren't totally enamoured with the sound of middle HB's. I think for most players, the biggest attraction is looks more than sound. But that's just me...

That's why I designed the wiring I just described. It uses the middle humbucker but in a much more logical way, physically and sonically. use the right pickups and you get a very, very good quacky sound out of your fixed bridge les paul. I never ever use a middle pickup on its own. Never, not even on a strat. I use it to shape and voice a sound. Like Steve Morse does with his 4 pickup guitar.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

This "as low as possible" thing says to me that a 3 pup LP just isn't for you.

 

[Docrock]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

This "as low as possible" thing says to me that a 3 pup LP just isn't for you.

Correct, but as I said earlier, I didnt seek out this guitar, it was presented to me at a price I couldnt pass up and it was in need of a refin
so rather than pass it up, Im rolling with it. While playing it I found that the middle does get in my way...so...my thinking is thin pup ring, keep it low and use a higher output to even things up a bit...that may change...who knows

I decided on a hybrid bridge - 59n middle - jazz neck, I think I will run the frampton wiring, sounds like a winner to me as I already have the 500ks non pull.

thanks again for the advice, I learned a few things.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

Correct, but as I said earlier, I didnt seek out this guitar, it was presented to me at a price I couldnt pass up and it was in need of a refin
so rather than pass it up, Im rolling with it. While playing it I found that the middle does get in my way...so...my thinking is thin pup ring, keep it low and use a higher output to even things up a bit...that may change...who knows.

+1. I'm not an HHH guy either, but my SG Custom is one of the most beautiful guitars I own. Plus it reminds me of Glen Buxton, who had a fondness for them. But like most players, I'm not sold on the usefulness of a middle HB.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

This "as low as possible" thing says to me that a 3 pup LP just isn't for you.

If I remember correctly, didn't you say recently that Ace didn't use his middle HB (replaced it with an incendiary devise). Technically, wouldn't that rule him as being a true HHH guy too?

 

[darthphineas]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

There was a rig rundown that said Ace Frehely has a Super D in his middle position.


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[audiocheck]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

I think it's safe to say that few guys have experimented with as many 3 pickup Les Pauls as I have. My findings are this.

use a good bridge and neck pickup, just the ones you like. Use a low output neck pickup in the middle and wire each coil to a push pull pot. if you lift the push pull pot you engage that coil by routing it to a volume pot of a humbucker. So, when you get that quacky tone going on when you split the other humbuckers with a second push pull pot, you get a nice, clean tone that you can roll down if you need. or if you don't coilsplit it, you warm up the tone a bit, just a bit, without losing definition.

But that's just me. what the heck do I know. I just own 20 3 pickup les pauls.

NICE

 

[darthphineas]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

http://www.guitargeek.com/ace-frehley-guitar-rig-and-gear-setup-2010/




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[audiocheck]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

I have a 3 pickup Gibson custom, mahogany/maple cap

I have a 59/custom hybrid for the bridge and looking for opinions on mates for it

I have a 59N as well...

The center pup will be lower as it tends to get in the way, so Im going to use a thin ring and get it as low as I can

What would mate up well in this configuration?

I have another LP with 59 in the neck and another with jazz in the neck...wouldnt mind using my 59 in the middle an getting a new flavor for the neck of the 3 pickup LP

thanks

How soon do you want to make a decision? I am dropping off my 2013 LPJ to get routed for a middle Humbucker tomorrow. My project will have some extensive switching options, I hope my project will be done by the end of the month. I will post a YouTube clip when I am done. My only mainstay is to have a real deal Bridge Pickup. The neck I am not as critical about and the middle has to get the "out of phase" and/or Strat "Quack" thing going with other pickups. Not really looking to get a groundbreaking Middle alone tone. Maybe in split mode though?

 

[Docrock]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

Why is the frampton schematic so elusive?

Ive searched here and the web with no luck

Everytime I think I find it someone says...no thats not right

and there is a drawn up version on google images, but it shows 2 extra caps bypassing each volume...anyone know what they are?
they are not marked

 

[blueman335]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

There was a rig rundown that said Ace Frehely has a Super D in his middle position.

For his signature guitar, but doesn't his stage one have a smoke bomb for one of the PU's?

 

[darthphineas]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

For his signature guitar, but doesn't his stage one have a smoke bomb for one of the PU's?

dude, I have no idea. I'm pulling Aceman's chain. but that link is from his 2010 rig, having spoken to Ace and his tech. for that matter, is Ace still even doing that smoke bomb trick on stage after all this time? and even so, does he do it with all his guitars or just the one? I really don't know.

 

[audiocheck]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

Why is the frampton schematic so elusive?

Ive searched here and the web with no luck

Everytime I think I find it someone says...no thats not right

and there is a drawn up version on google images, but it shows 2 extra caps bypassing each volume...anyone know what they are?
they are not marked

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Those extra caps, I believe are treble bleeds, this allows you to not loose treble when you turn down the volume.

 

[DKSEARS]

Re: Looking for opinions for 3 pickup les paul

I have a '97 Ace Frehley model, I bought it new, with three DiMarzio Super Distortions in it. That's what came stock in it and it sounds so good that I haven't felt the need to experiment beyond that.

I've seen this guitar run the range from raging rock distortion to sweet blues and jazz tones and I haven't seen much else top it. I keep looking to capture much of that in the guitars I've been building.

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