LOOKING FOR VIOLIN TYPE SOUND O/D PEDAL~~

zozoe

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About 30 yrs. ago, my band & I recorded in a top A room studio, and I was playing my H'bucker loaded Strat into a Boss Heavy Metal pedal, set to a tone cut, as opposed to any boost, then into my rack which contained a parametric EQ set to a subtle but sharp EQ curve cut in the low mids, then into a low powdered Gibson amp. The tone I got was something like a combination of Norwegian guitarist Terje Rypdal, & Mick Taylor from 'Time Waits For No One', along with that Gilmourish singing tone! It sounded almost like a violin, somewhat O/D'n but smooth & not fuzzy & edgey. No that different from Clapton's old tone cut 'Woman Tone' sound with Cream, but with more high end clarity. No longer owning any of that equipment other than the guitar, I want to try to replicate that type of sound, & while I know the amp is a big piece of the puzzle, is there a OD pedal that comes to mind that might give me what I've described? I know Terje uses a TC Electronics Sustain-Param. EQ pedal thru AC30's, & Mick Taylor (Time Waits For No One) is simply a guitar tone god, so what I seek is surely a tall task, but I just want that rounded OD sound w/o the spikes & edge, with something of a parametric EQ effect on board as well, or seperate. Rypdal, Taylor, & Gilmour. Thanks all!!

UPDATE: I did pick a Stomp Under Foot Violet Menace, and i was unable to get the Vol & Gain above 8 o'clock with getting this whiney overloading sound. Matt from SUF said i could send it in (pics taken looked normal, he said), but I'm thinking more & more that it may be my medium hot P90's in concert with my Mesa DC3, but on clean. MY QUESTION, is this more common than I thought, where the gain structure of a pedal in combo with my pups & amp, is simply too much?? Deep underneath the awful noise, I can tell the pedal means well, but not a good match.
Thanks for indulging my lengthy post.
 
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I use a Big Muff Pi with the tone turned down for that tone.


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I still use my Ebows daily.
I think a fuzz, with the tone rolled down, 1st in the effects chain into a low wattage tube amp turned up loud works really well (it did for Robert Fripp).
 
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No doubt... Ebow's are great & I've been a self proclaimed expert since the 80's,��, but I need to be able to move around to serious leadwork rather than just a momentary effect. I think the Big Muff family of boxes might be the way to go, as previously suggested, & roll the high tone down..
Thnx
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Hey Dave... Any particular brand PI over another? EHX Nano, w/op amp, Triangle, Green Russian,,,,
There seems to be many!!
Thnx
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I ask you what I just asked Dave...
Any particular brand PI over another? EHX Nano, w/op amp, Triangle, Green Russian,,,,
Thnx
 
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The Deluxe Big Muff PI looks like it mught better suit my likes, especially with the switchable 'q' on the mid tone control. Again, fuzz is not my goal, but a well rounded off 'string' sound with sone nice sustain.
Thnx again guys~~
 
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The Deluxe Big Muff PI looks like it mught better suit my likes, especially with the switchable 'q' on the mid tone control. Again, fuzz is not my goal, but a well rounded off 'string' sound with sone nice sustain.
Thnx again guys~~

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LOOKING FOR VIOLIN TYPE SOUND O/D PEDAL~~

The P-19 is the creamiest fuzz ever. I really dig them.

What you we’re experiencing is called oscillation, most likely, it’s a pedal issue.

Have you tried the boss slow gear pedal or something of the like? It will do the violin sound you are looking for. It’s sort of like an ebow with sensitivity settings.


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Hey Dave... Any particular brand PI over another? EHX Nano, w/op amp, Triangle, Green Russian,,,,
There seems to be many!!
Thnx
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Hmm, people have to have a better idea than I would- I used modeled ones in a Fractal. I would like to know more about the real thing, though.
 
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Eric Johnson & David Gilmour are both known for using Tube Drivers.

Eric Johnson also uses a Fuzz Face, and Tube Screamers on his classic stuff. Generally not ALL on at once, he runs 3 different paths for different sounds.

Gilmour is Big Muff into Tube Driver, and sometimes a Colorsound Power Booster.

Smooth tones can be fun to sculpt from multiple devices, so you can kick in layers, going from a smooth overdrive with less high end rolled off to a more rounded violin tone by kicking on the fuzz/higher gain devices with tone rolled back.

Hermida Zendrive is another smooth OD/distortion tone, but they are another fairly expensive boutique pedal.

That P19 sounded killer, but I kept wondering what it could do on a neck pickup, which is where people tend to go for smoothness out of a strat. Curious oversight in that demo.
P19 is apparently designed to sound like Gilmour's Pi into Power Boost tone.

There's a ridiculous variety of options, all good for different players and rigs. If you want smooth, the P19 is great. But not cheap. You could get a couple of others for variety/stacking cheaper. But if simplicity and no bad sounds appeals, P19 looks like a strong contender. A lot of Pi clones copy the original's tricky settings, where there's maybe 2 useful settings for the filter/tone control...
 
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EJ also runs his plexis with treble at "0"... and low presence

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EJ's Tube Driver, Fuzz Face, Zendrive, etc settings:

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