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Hey guys.
Sorry for the upcoming long post.
I'm basically looking for a new pair of speakers for my Zilla Cabs Fatboy 2x12 to replace the 2 V30s currently in it. The cab is slightly oversized in order to give a bit more bass than a 'standard' size 2x12.
The V30s work ok with my Splawn Quick Rod, I think it's more compressed voicing smoothes out some of the mid spike of the V30s, but with the SLO Clone (stock with 2x 5881s) they're pretty much unbearable at anything above 2 on the volume control as the treble increases along with volume and I just can't seem to tame the shrillness at anything approaching band volumes.
Both are Mid heavy amps with a good whack of Treble too. The Quick Rod is bright but not shrill at all with the V30s in this cab or the CL80 in my 1x12 whereas the SLO is ok with the CL80 but will rip your face off at anything above 2 with the V30s. The Quick Rod is more compressed sounding whereas the SLO is very 'open' sounding. Both imo are takes on similar tones but approached from different angles.
I'm looking to replace the V30s with 2 Eminences and have been thinking of the following combos:
2x Legend V12s - Soldano themselves use a 16ohm version of these speakers in their own cabs so I'm sure they'd be a great fit for the SLO. Not so sure about the Quick Rod though as I haven't come across anyone that uses them with that amp.
Legend V12/Legend GB12 combo - This to me seems like it'd be a good combo as it gives some of the more modern voicing of the V12 along with some of the Greenback type voicing of the GB12. Eminence told me it'd be a good fit tonally but they'd advise against it as this combo would only give me 100w total power handling and may not be enough for the 100w Splawn.
2x Legend GB12s or 2x Private Jacks - Greenbacks are 1 type of speaker that I seem to read a lot about as matching up really well with both QRs and SLOs. The speaker used by most people with Splawns is called a Small Block which is an Eminence speaker based on the Private Jack that they modify specifically for Splawn. Again Eminence told me it'd be a good fit tonally but they'd advise against it as this combo would only give me 100w total power handling and may not be enough for the 100w Splawn.
Wizard/Governor combo - I'd never thought about this combo but this is what Anthony at Eminence recommended when I emailled them. From what I gather it's their take on the V30/G12H30 combo but without the mid spike of the V30s. This seems like a combo of speakers that alot of people use with many different amps and alot of different styles of music. A good friend of mine that used to use a Quick Rod thinks this combo may be too bright but he said he's in the minority as most people seem to like it.
Wizard/Swamp Thang - This is what my friend mentioned above suggested I look into as he thinks it'd be a better fit for the QR. He hates SLOs though so wasn't interested in anything that'd fit that as well. My other friend that actually built my SLO for me has used Swamp Thangs in the past and thinks they'd be too bassy with that amp. He doesn't have much experience with the QR though so isn't sure how they'd work for that.
I've also recently been made aware of Tonespotters, a G12-65 variant I think?, that I think could fit both amps but haven't looked into them in too much detail yet.
So basically my questions are: does anyone have experience of both amps I've mentioned and if so what speakers do you find work well with both? Do you have any experience with any of the combos I mentioned above and what did you think to them? Any other combos I should look into?
I know this is quite a specific question amp wise so am not expecting too much in the way of replies but thought I'd give it a go :biglaugh:
I mainly play 70s and 80s Rock with various Strats/LPs/Teles/PRS CU22/Eggle/Flying V/Ibanez/BC Rich Guitars with BKPs, a Firebird with Dimarzios and a Jackson Dinky with JB/Jazz.
Again sorry for the long post and if I've asked stuff that's been asked many times before.
Thanks.
Craig
Sorry for the upcoming long post.
I'm basically looking for a new pair of speakers for my Zilla Cabs Fatboy 2x12 to replace the 2 V30s currently in it. The cab is slightly oversized in order to give a bit more bass than a 'standard' size 2x12.
The V30s work ok with my Splawn Quick Rod, I think it's more compressed voicing smoothes out some of the mid spike of the V30s, but with the SLO Clone (stock with 2x 5881s) they're pretty much unbearable at anything above 2 on the volume control as the treble increases along with volume and I just can't seem to tame the shrillness at anything approaching band volumes.
Both are Mid heavy amps with a good whack of Treble too. The Quick Rod is bright but not shrill at all with the V30s in this cab or the CL80 in my 1x12 whereas the SLO is ok with the CL80 but will rip your face off at anything above 2 with the V30s. The Quick Rod is more compressed sounding whereas the SLO is very 'open' sounding. Both imo are takes on similar tones but approached from different angles.
I'm looking to replace the V30s with 2 Eminences and have been thinking of the following combos:
2x Legend V12s - Soldano themselves use a 16ohm version of these speakers in their own cabs so I'm sure they'd be a great fit for the SLO. Not so sure about the Quick Rod though as I haven't come across anyone that uses them with that amp.
Legend V12/Legend GB12 combo - This to me seems like it'd be a good combo as it gives some of the more modern voicing of the V12 along with some of the Greenback type voicing of the GB12. Eminence told me it'd be a good fit tonally but they'd advise against it as this combo would only give me 100w total power handling and may not be enough for the 100w Splawn.
2x Legend GB12s or 2x Private Jacks - Greenbacks are 1 type of speaker that I seem to read a lot about as matching up really well with both QRs and SLOs. The speaker used by most people with Splawns is called a Small Block which is an Eminence speaker based on the Private Jack that they modify specifically for Splawn. Again Eminence told me it'd be a good fit tonally but they'd advise against it as this combo would only give me 100w total power handling and may not be enough for the 100w Splawn.
Wizard/Governor combo - I'd never thought about this combo but this is what Anthony at Eminence recommended when I emailled them. From what I gather it's their take on the V30/G12H30 combo but without the mid spike of the V30s. This seems like a combo of speakers that alot of people use with many different amps and alot of different styles of music. A good friend of mine that used to use a Quick Rod thinks this combo may be too bright but he said he's in the minority as most people seem to like it.
Wizard/Swamp Thang - This is what my friend mentioned above suggested I look into as he thinks it'd be a better fit for the QR. He hates SLOs though so wasn't interested in anything that'd fit that as well. My other friend that actually built my SLO for me has used Swamp Thangs in the past and thinks they'd be too bassy with that amp. He doesn't have much experience with the QR though so isn't sure how they'd work for that.
I've also recently been made aware of Tonespotters, a G12-65 variant I think?, that I think could fit both amps but haven't looked into them in too much detail yet.
So basically my questions are: does anyone have experience of both amps I've mentioned and if so what speakers do you find work well with both? Do you have any experience with any of the combos I mentioned above and what did you think to them? Any other combos I should look into?
I know this is quite a specific question amp wise so am not expecting too much in the way of replies but thought I'd give it a go :biglaugh:
I mainly play 70s and 80s Rock with various Strats/LPs/Teles/PRS CU22/Eggle/Flying V/Ibanez/BC Rich Guitars with BKPs, a Firebird with Dimarzios and a Jackson Dinky with JB/Jazz.
Again sorry for the long post and if I've asked stuff that's been asked many times before.
Thanks.
Craig