Looking to upgrade my pickups

Count Orlox

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Hello to all! I'm fairly new here. I was wondering if any of you could help upgrade my pickups in my RG 652ahmfx. The body style is ash with a maple neck/maple finger board. The styles I play are Thrash, neo classical and other various styles of metal. I highly appreciate any feed back I get!
 
Re: Looking to upgrade my pickups

Jason Becker Perpetual Burn comes to mind. I'd give it a look and see what you think, man.
 
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You need to modify the pickups a little to make them fit as the Ibanez is routed for DiMarzios in mind. By experience, I would expect the need to file the mounting tabs to a triangular shape and filing down the adjustable screws (sticking out the back of the pickup). Even then you might need to place a thin shim in the neck pocket to increase the neck-body angle (often a good idea regardless). It's not a difficult task and I do that every time with a new Ibanez, as 1) pickups are cheaper to modify than the guitar, and 2) the tone is worth it :)
 
Re: Looking to upgrade my pickups

You need to modify the pickups a little to make them fit as the Ibanez is routed for DiMarzios in mind. By experience, I would expect the need to file the mounting tabs to a triangular shape and filing down the adjustable screws (sticking out the back of the pickup). Even then you might need to place a thin shim in the neck pocket to increase the neck-body angle (often a good idea regardless). It's not a difficult task and I do that every time with a new Ibanez, as 1) pickups are cheaper to modify than the guitar, and 2) the tone is worth it :)

I had contacted a Seymour Duncan rep a week ago he mentioned the tabs would have to be modified. He said I could go to the the custom floor shop and ask them to make the base plate tabs triangular. I'm curious on how black winters would sound in my guitar?
 
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The black winters may be a little much in an ash/maple combo. I would recommend the alt 8 over the black winter for that guitar. The alt 8 will have body where you need it for metal. I have one in an ash rg471 I got for cheap and it does wonders.
 
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I think we need to start with what you don't like about the tone from the stock pickups. The Tone Zone and Air Norton are quite capable pickups for the styles you're referring to. What about the current tone doesn't suit you? Once we know this we can offer better suggestions.
 
Re: Looking to upgrade my pickups

I think we need to start with what you don't like about the tone from the stock pickups. The Tone Zone and Air Norton are quite capable pickups for the styles you're referring to. What about the current tone doesn't suit you? Once we know this we can offer better suggestions.
The tone zone for me gets muddy when I play big chords and has a lack of presence to me honestly. And the Air Norton honestly does not bother me it has a nice lead tone. I can honestly live without changing the neck pickup.
 
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Have you tried lowering the pickup and increasing the pole piece height on the wound string side? This a good way of lowering the muddiness, and increasing the "cut" of the pickup. Another option on top of this is switching the filister screw pole-pieces out with hex-head types. I've done all of this with a Tone Zone, and it definitely doesn't have too much mud, and has a greater presence and crunch. If you've got any spare old cheap humbuckers with the hex head screws you can swap them out with hand tools, or just buy some from a specialty fastener. From memory you're looking for socket head cap screws, 5-40 with 1/2" length. If you can only find longer just cut them to size. ;)

These are simple mods that cost nothing, to next to nothing, and may yield the results your'e looking for. You can also half-air the Tone Zone too, which will held decrease the mud and lower the output a bit. Also, adding a capacitor between the pickup's red "hot" wire, and the pickup selector will filter out mud. I've done extensive modifications with the Tone Zone, and other pickups, to achieve changes with little to no cost. :)
 
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Any clear, articulate sets will get you where you want to be: check out either a Distortion set, or for something more modern, a Sentient/Pegasus set. Both sets cover a wide range of heavy styles.
 
Re: Looking to upgrade my pickups

Have you tried lowering the pickup and increasing the pole piece height on the wound string side? This a good way of lowering the muddiness, and increasing the "cut" of the pickup. Another option on top of this is switching the filister screw pole-pieces out with hex-head types. I've done all of this with a Tone Zone, and it definitely doesn't have too much mud, and has a greater presence and crunch. If you've got any spare old cheap humbuckers with the hex head screws you can swap them out with hand tools, or just buy some from a specialty fastener. From memory you're looking for socket head cap screws, 5-40 with 1/2" length. If you can only find longer just cut them to size. ;)

These are simple mods that cost nothing, to next to nothing, and may yield the results your'e looking for. You can also half-air the Tone Zone too, which will held decrease the mud and lower the output a bit. Also, adding a capacitor between the pickup's red "hot" wire, and the pickup selector will filter out mud. I've done extensive modifications with the Tone Zone, and other pickups, to achieve changes with little to no cost. :)
I would use hex for both coils at that point, you just have to use filler on the slug bobbin, but it goes a much longer way than just hexing the screw coil. You can also use a German silver base plate to reduce the downward shift in resonance frequency which will help with the boomyness some people hear with that pickup. If your really ambitious you can turn it into an active tonezone. I personally love it the way it is.

Edit:mmmm you know what, I think I'm going to make an active tone zone this weekend...
 
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I think ash is one of the better woods for a Distortion, actually.
 
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