Ball&Chain
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
That would be my major complaint about them.
That would be my major complaint about them.
Looks to be an NAD incoming
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Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
I dont know about that. I just looked and that thing is $600
Would rather have the Jet city at that price. Its not dark at all.
And whats the deal with 2 preamp tubes in an amp that has 2 channels and an effects loop? The jet city has 5!
Sorry I really didnt mean to sound like this did when I read it. Looks to be a great amp! Just didnt agree with "killing everybody in that price range"
Still want to know about the 2 preamp tube thing
I dont know about that. I just looked and that thing is $600
Would rather have the Jet city at that price. Its not dark at all.
And whats the deal with 2 preamp tubes in an amp that has 2 channels and an effects loop? The jet city has 5!
Sorry I really didnt mean to sound like this did when I read it. Looks to be a great amp! Just didnt agree with "killing everybody in that price range"
Still want to know about the 2 preamp tube thing
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Ball&Chain
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
It probably has to do with the preamp being a "hybrid" design.
Ive played the Jet City 20 watter. The older 1 channel version. I definitely preferred the Blackstars, plus I thought the overall quality of construction was better. The BS amps feel more substantial.
It probably has to do with the preamp being a "hybrid" design.
Ive played the Jet City 20 watter. The older 1 channel version. I definitely preferred the Blackstars, plus I thought the overall quality of construction was better. The BS amps feel more substantial.
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Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
cool. I know some people prefer one or the other. Ive not noticed any issues with construction on my Jet City. As long as it is what YOU like thats all that matters!
cool. I know some people prefer one or the other. Ive not noticed any issues with construction on my Jet City. As long as it is what YOU like thats all that matters!
Ball&Chain
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
Not saying the Jet City I looked at was bad construction or anything like that at all. It looked to be built pretty well. I just thought the BS amps were put together like the proverbial tanks. I also prefer the styling and the front control panel design of the BS
Also, I looked up the preamp tubes on the Jet cities. Assuming its the 20w, 2 of the 5 12ax7 tubes are for Reverb. The BS amps have digital reverb, so dont require tubes. So, its a 1 tube difference as far as the preamp is concerned.
Not saying the Jet City I looked at was bad construction or anything like that at all. It looked to be built pretty well. I just thought the BS amps were put together like the proverbial tanks. I also prefer the styling and the front control panel design of the BS
Also, I looked up the preamp tubes on the Jet cities. Assuming its the 20w, 2 of the 5 12ax7 tubes are for Reverb. The BS amps have digital reverb, so dont require tubes. So, its a 1 tube difference as far as the preamp is concerned.
misterwhizzy
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
Which idiot told you this?
Three of the five are for gain and drive. The crunch channel uses two, and the overdrive channel uses three. Then there's one for the effects loop and one for the PI. The head doesn't have reverb. Here's the manufacturer's web page.
In the HT-5, there's only one preamp tube. Most of the drive is generated by diodes, but some of the warmth and drive is the tube. The input is cleanly boosted to be clipped by the diodes and the tube, then it goes through another IC used as the PI and into the power tube.
The Venue series added another tube into the mix, but they're not exactly open about the design. It could be used as a gain stage for the input, or it could be the PI, or it could be another couple of clipping stages. My vote is for the latter.
Which idiot told you this?
Three of the five are for gain and drive. The crunch channel uses two, and the overdrive channel uses three. Then there's one for the effects loop and one for the PI. The head doesn't have reverb. Here's the manufacturer's web page.
In the HT-5, there's only one preamp tube. Most of the drive is generated by diodes, but some of the warmth and drive is the tube. The input is cleanly boosted to be clipped by the diodes and the tube, then it goes through another IC used as the PI and into the power tube.
The Venue series added another tube into the mix, but they're not exactly open about the design. It could be used as a gain stage for the input, or it could be the PI, or it could be another couple of clipping stages. My vote is for the latter.
Ball&Chain
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
The idiot who authorized this from MF I guess.
The idiot who authorized this from MF I guess.
Ball&Chain
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
Yea, were talking different amps. Im comparing 2 20w combos and your comparing a BS Ht-5 to a 20w JC head
Yea, were talking different amps. Im comparing 2 20w combos and your comparing a BS Ht-5 to a 20w JC head
misterwhizzy
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Re: Looks to be an NAD incoming
Got it. I was really using the HT-5 as a basis for my analysis of the HT-20. And I thought you were talking about the JCA22H. I still have never heard of a reverb driver using two tubes, but I'm no Mike Soldano.
And for what it's worth, the Blackstar will destroy the Jet City in terms of gain.
Got it. I was really using the HT-5 as a basis for my analysis of the HT-20. And I thought you were talking about the JCA22H. I still have never heard of a reverb driver using two tubes, but I'm no Mike Soldano.
And for what it's worth, the Blackstar will destroy the Jet City in terms of gain.
