LP Studio Pro: Pickups wanted!

sombersoul

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It's that time again, I'm about to get a new LP Studio Pro (Manhattan Blue). As always, Gibson PUs come out, SD PUs get in. I've used a variety of SD PUs before, but I'd like to hear suggestions on which route to go with the new Studio Pro.

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I'm playing post rock with a heavy edge, so what I really need is a huge, chunky, chugging, thick rhythm tone from the bridge and a sweet-sounding, vintagey, chimey clean, presumably from the neck.

I currently own an older, higher quality EP SG-400 (very much like the '61 Reissue) and EP LP Traditional 60s. The SG has DDb and PGn, the LP is equipped with the C and PGn. I used to own a Gibson SG Standard with DD, Alt8 and C5 alternating in the bridge with a 59n...this was until I realized the guitar itself was a dud and I just couldn't bond with it, after which I immediately sold it.

I have two unused brigde PUs lying around, namely a DD and an Alt8. I don't do PU swaps or magnet swaps myself, so that's the only limitation.

Any suggestions are as always highly appreciated! Thanks! :)


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Read below for a few comments on the PUs I have already used (longer read):


Bridge:

Custom: It's a good fit for the LP but I feel it sounds somewhat bland. That's not a big deal, really, and the C would be my first choice for the LP Pro if I was unsure about which other PU to get. I wouldn't mind a non-ceramic PU in the bridge for a change, though.

Duncan Distortion: It's a great fit in the bridge of the SG-400 and cuts through really well. To me it's got more character than the C, possibly ruder. The cleans are somewhat honky. While it's great in my SG-400, I disliked in the SG Standard. Weird. I'm unsure about putting it in the bridge of an LP. My friend has one in an EP LP Standard, and it cuts through but there seems to be a big mid-spike here. I don't want to end up in "mid-hell", as I'm already using a rather mid-oriented setup.

C5: I got it for my ex-SG Standard after reading this forum, but I was unimpressed. The cleans were pretty nice (not honky), but overall I felt it was too thin and bright-sounding for my taste. In an LP this might be a totally different story, though.

Alt8: I have only very little experience, but from what I remember having it in the long-gone SG Standard, the cleans definitely sounded more organic. It also seemed to have a high-mid focus, at least in my setup. I have no idea how it would sound in an LP, and if it would be a good fit for what I want to do.


Of course, I'm more than open for PUs I haven't used before.


Neck:


Pearly Gates: As you can see from my description at the beginning, I have PGns in two guitars. I mostly use them for my cleans. They are great on the higher strings but, at least in my setup, they tend to get boomy on the lower strings with little definition. Sometimes this makes me compete with the bass player. ;) What surprises me is that I almost invariably read about the PGn that it is bright, and yet I wish it was more defined and sparklier on the lower strings. Under higher gain, the PGns in both the SG and LP muddy up and compress too much with the bass walking all over, the higher strings sustain like a violin (which I like!) in a thick and rather wooly way.

I've been wondering if there's a PU with a similar sweet sound as the PGn but with a little more chime and definition, esp. on the lower strings. Would a Jazz neck be what I'm really looking for?

'59 neck: This PU is always described as boomy, but I wonder how that might sound like, if I already find the PGn a bit boomy? Unfortunately, I don't remember the '59 I had in my ex-SG very well, but I know I liked it much better than the C5, so perhaps I want to try it in an LP? I'm thinking that perhaps because it seems to have more relaxed mids (compared to the PGn), the sound will come across as less muddy, more brilliant in the top end?
 
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If you have a DD laying around, I think you should definitely put it in the bridge instead of buying something new. You can then use that as your baseline, decide what you like/don't like about it in that particular guitar and then you'll know exactly what to buy from there.

For the neck, you are correct, the Jazz has killer chime and definition on the low strings. Hell, you can strum all strings, low tuned, on full gain and hear every note! That comes at a price though, mainly you don't get a ton of character coming through on the high notes. 59 is a perfect compromise, if you can get a handle on the boominess. There is a lot of good advise on the forum for taking care of that.
 
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Totally unrelated note: I think that guitar would amazing with chrome covers, the flat blacks make it look pretty bland
 
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I don't do PU swaps or magnet swaps myself, so that's the only limitation.

I have to ask... Why? You've talked about several different guitars you've got, so go find the one you use the least, pick the pickup you use less frequently, and experiment with it.

Also, if you have a spare magnet laying around, try putting it in one of the pickups you have laying around. Give it a shot.

I went through several pickups in my LP Studio, and the best thing I came up with was the Custom 8. I like it much better than the Distortion, but that's the only one you're considering that I tried. Unfortunately, this would require you to replace the magnet AND the pickup.
 
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Easy fix for 'boomy'.... turn the bass knob down on the amp.

I'm starting to change my mind about Gibson. They ARE offering the best values for the money these days. I guess listening to the customers works out like that.
 
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I have to ask... Why? You've talked about several different guitars you've got, so go find the one you use the least, pick the pickup you use less frequently, and experiment with it.

Also, if you have a spare magnet laying around, try putting it in one of the pickups you have laying around. Give it a shot.

I've been reading this forum for long enough to know that this is usually the first (and unarguably the best) advice given to people asking about different PUs. And it makes sense! However, I'm generally not into tinkering and tampering, and I don't even possess a soldering iron or know how to use it. I also have no guitars lying around that I would care to experiment on. ;)

I realize that for people who swap PUs and magnets frequently, this may seem like a piece of cake, but I simply want a clean job done at a trusted guitar tech. I think that's also somehow understandable.

Having said this, it doesn't mean that I will never experiment myself and try to learn somethig new. I DO want that C8 in an SG (or LP) one day. I just don't wish to concern myself with this at this time.


OK, now back to topic:

I could try the DD, yes, but because of the above reasons, I'd like to get it right the first time, although I'm sure I could live with the DD for a while and see what it does for me in an LP.

I'm still wondering whether the Alt8 would be a good fit?

Easy fix for 'boomy'.... turn the bass knob down on the amp.

Now that's something I've never thought about! :scratchch ;)

I think my initial description wasn't spot on, perhaps it is really more clarity that I would like out of the neck pickup. The PGn with its (sweet) midrange tends to sound cloudy on the lower strings.

For the neck, you are correct, the Jazz has killer chime and definition on the low strings. Hell, you can strum all strings, low tuned, on full gain and hear every note! That comes at a price though, mainly you don't get a ton of character coming through on the high notes. 59 is a perfect compromise, if you can get a handle on the boominess. There is a lot of good advise on the forum for taking care of that.

Thanks for this concise description! I remember reading about the Jazz sounding somewhat sterile. I guess it's the sweet midrange of the PGn that I esp. like on the higher strings. Can the Jazz also do liquid and sustaining solo sounds? Would the '59 have more "character" on the top end?

Oh, and you're right, the LP Pro MM would look even better with chrome covers.
 
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I think it's time for you to try the best p'up combo for the music you play and the guitar you're getting, delivering all you've asked for and then some: the Lt. Kojak set.

It's an A4 '59n + A8 Custom. You can ask Maricela to make it. It'll be a Custom Floor order, so no overprice, just a longer delivery time.

HTH,
 
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It definitly would try the Alt8 first. If its a brite guitar it would work. It think of the Alt 8 as a overwound JB8. If thats not the ticket, try the DD.
If you have chosen your fav bridge, put the other one to the Trading section and ask a Jazz neck for it. I bet you get what you want, since there are a lot of Jazz Neck floating around (think of all that OEM's).
 
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The Lt. Kojak set is what I have in my LP Studio, and it stopped my searching. Every once in a while I think about doing something different, but then I realize it's exactly what I want, slap myself in the face while no one's looking, and get back to playing.
 
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I think it's time for you to try the best p'up combo for the music you play and the guitar you're getting, delivering all you've asked for and then some: the Lt. Kojak set.

It's an A4 '59n + A8 Custom. You can ask Maricela to make it. It'll be a Custom Floor order, so no overprice, just a longer delivery time.

HTH,

Actually, I did have the idea of placing a custom order with SD. However, once again it's disadvantageous being a EU customer, since SD no longer ships custom orders to Europe: "EU Residents: Due to a recent EU directive, we are no longer able to ship directly to residents of the EU." Otherwise, I'd be more than willing to order two C8s and maybe try that A4 '59.

Or is there any other way to get custom PUs? I'd even buy used from reliable forum members....
 
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