Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

[UberMetalDood]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

The Vintage Modern uses KT66 tubes not KT88.

I was basically referring to KT tubes in general. They generally sound bigger with more bass, clarity, headroom and bloom than EL34 and 6L6. The difference between the Vintage Modern vs JCM800 and Shiva EL34 vs 20th Ann. is comparable.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

I was basically referring to KT tubes in general. They generally sound bigger with more bass, clarity, headroom and bloom than EL34 and 6L6. The difference between the Vintage Modern vs JCM800 and Shiva EL34 vs 20th Ann. is comparable.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[mariosyjp]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

I really like them for single coils, and a big pushed clean sound.

For humbuckers, I'm not really fond of their gainy tones. They seem kind of harsh and crunchy, where I feel like the amp should have had EL-34's.

And about Dave's Komet 60. GREAT AMP! That thing will destroy a Vintage Modern.
That's the sound I want to hear with humbuckers. I'm still haunted by the day I had to send the IRS $2400 on the same day I spotted a Komet 60 on Craigslist for $2600. That hurt my heart, and if I could go back to that day, I'd throw the tax return in the garbage and buy it. hahaha

I know what you mean about harsh but not if you select a V2 tube with sweet highs (rules out tung-sol and EH!)
I use the sovtek LPS in V2 and it sounds SWEET on the high gain range

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

Aren't VM's hot rodded JTM45's? Indeed, it is my understanding that VM's are more JTM-45 than some JTM-45 reissues Marshall built over the years (with 5881's and all)...

Found the following (but be advised that I don't know whether or not the quote is verified):

Steve Dawson. The amp's designer puts it

Quote:
"The Vintage Modern is basically a JTM45 with some hot rodding. For a JTM 45 tone select the low dynamic range, master volume on full, mid boost out, Detail at 2 -4 o'clock. Body at 1 - 3 o'clock and then dime the tones. This should be very close.

The vintage Modern is essentially a Plexi with some bells and whistles. Its foundation is the 'JTM 45 Super 100's' as championed by Hendrix, Clapton in Cream and several others." -SteveD

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=133208

Nevertheless, I am not a big fan of its hot rodding side, agree with GJ... With HB's it sounds a bit harsh to me. Good but a bit harsh. Then again, I did not try it with different and better tubes. JJ's 803s could be taming that harshness I am talking about... And... maybe the lack of a tube rectifier is the reason... I dunno...

Overall it is good Marshall I think.

B

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

Its foundation is the 'JTM 45 Super 100's' as championed by Hendrix, Clapton in Cream and several others." -SteveD

The JTM45/100 was more like a Super Bass with KT66s.

The Vintage/Modern is more like a 70's JMP 4 holer with Kt66s instead of EL34s (or 6550s) it looks to me, given a split V1 cathode and later lead amp tone stack values.

It does have the following hotrod features:
*An Extra 12AX7 preamp tube for more gain
* Channel jumping already done for you (which made it difficult to dial in)
* A digital Reverb
* A post PI master volume.

I always liked the VM and the entire concept behind the design. I was really surprised when it was discontinued.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

Maybe it should be pointed out that a JTM45/100 and a JTM45 are entirely different amps, and that goes beyond the 45/100 being a 100 watt amp using solid state rectifier,only with a JTM45 type pre-amp.

 

[tman]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

I like these VM Marshalls myself. I love my DSL40 with Creamback speaker,but I really love the 1987X plexi,Bluesbreaker,and the 1973X is one of my favs.

 

[JeffB]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

The VM was not a easy amp to dial in, but I loved it. It had a certain raunch that typical NMVs and 2203/4s dont.

I too was surprised it was discontinued so quickly. Id love to have one.

 

[misterwhizzy]

Re: Marshall 2266 Vintage Modern

Oh, resurrecting a zombie thread near Halloween. I get it.