Marshall MA vs Haze
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FuseG4
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
I'm a Haze fan and former DSL50 owner. The Haze is darker than modern marshall amps like the DSL, but the midrange is still there. Theres some flubbiness in the bass of the Haze, and rightfully so as it seems to be meant to capture a lil more of the old bluesbreaker vibe as opposed to the JCM800 vibe. My mom has a Haze 40 at her house and I play it occasionally.
The MA gets a lot of bad reviews. I can't make sense of them because honestly I haven't played one. The demo on the marshall site sounds OK, except that guy's guitar sounds dark as hell to me.
I'm a Haze fan and former DSL50 owner. The Haze is darker than modern marshall amps like the DSL, but the midrange is still there. Theres some flubbiness in the bass of the Haze, and rightfully so as it seems to be meant to capture a lil more of the old bluesbreaker vibe as opposed to the JCM800 vibe. My mom has a Haze 40 at her house and I play it occasionally.
The MA gets a lot of bad reviews. I can't make sense of them because honestly I haven't played one. The demo on the marshall site sounds OK, except that guy's guitar sounds dark as hell to me.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
Going ONLY by Marshall's site . . . i believe i prefer the MA 50 over the Haze 40.
Saying that . . . that is if i think of MY music. YMMV.
http://www.marshallamps.com/product_range.asp?productCode=Haze Overview - Haze
http://www.marshallamps.com/product_range.asp?productRangeId=30 - MA
Going ONLY by Marshall's site . . . i believe i prefer the MA 50 over the Haze 40.
Saying that . . . that is if i think of MY music. YMMV.
http://www.marshallamps.com/product_range.asp?productCode=Haze Overview - Haze
http://www.marshallamps.com/product_range.asp?productRangeId=30 - MA
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Skaforlifeologist
Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
from what i can tell, it's basically marshall's version of a peavey windsor, which is peavey's budget version of a cross between a plexi and an 800. so basically i'd say it's an overpriced copy of a copy of a copy. haven't played one yet though, so i wouldn't know. i think we have one at the shop though, i'll give it a spin sometime in the next couple weeks after some of the holiday shopping traffic dies down.
from what i can tell, it's basically marshall's version of a peavey windsor, which is peavey's budget version of a cross between a plexi and an 800. so basically i'd say it's an overpriced copy of a copy of a copy. haven't played one yet though, so i wouldn't know. i think we have one at the shop though, i'll give it a spin sometime in the next couple weeks after some of the holiday shopping traffic dies down.
Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
So with that being said would you recommend the haze for shredding/soloing or is the sound too undefined?
So with that being said would you recommend the haze for shredding/soloing or is the sound too undefined?
FuseG4
Our Neighbor Totoro
Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
The Haze is better for classic rock. If you need tight gain, absolutely go for the MA.
The Haze is better for classic rock. If you need tight gain, absolutely go for the MA.
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Skaforlifeologist
Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
if i were doing a classic rock flavored cover band, i'd definitely be rocking a Haze myself. just sayin'
if i were doing a classic rock flavored cover band, i'd definitely be rocking a Haze myself. just sayin'
Gearjoneser
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
This MA video is hilarious!
This MA video is hilarious!
trevorus
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
I tried the Haze combo in a local store and I could not get around how, when you switched channels, the common tone stack made the other channel always sound terrible. Get a good drive sound, and the clean is nasty. Good clean, awful drive sound. This is why I prefer single channel amps with a booster or nice drive pedal.
I tried the Haze combo in a local store and I could not get around how, when you switched channels, the common tone stack made the other channel always sound terrible. Get a good drive sound, and the clean is nasty. Good clean, awful drive sound. This is why I prefer single channel amps with a booster or nice drive pedal.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
+1
When I use a Marshall Haze 40, I just select the overdrive channel and adjust the gain saturation from the guitar's volume pot. I treat the Haze like an old non-Master Volume Marshall. This is the voicing that it happens to have.
Some other observations.
1) Channel switching is not instantaneous.
2) The effects section generates no end of popping and clicking noises.
3) There can be an almighty popping sound through the loudspeaker when operating the standby switch. (Precisely the sort of thing that a Standby switch is supposed to eliminate!)
Despite all of these criticisms, I would still chose the Haze over the Metal-oriented MA series but AlexR's suggestion of Blackstar is better by far.
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When I use a Marshall Haze 40, I just select the overdrive channel and adjust the gain saturation from the guitar's volume pot. I treat the Haze like an old non-Master Volume Marshall. This is the voicing that it happens to have.
Some other observations.
1) Channel switching is not instantaneous.
2) The effects section generates no end of popping and clicking noises.
3) There can be an almighty popping sound through the loudspeaker when operating the standby switch. (Precisely the sort of thing that a Standby switch is supposed to eliminate!)
Despite all of these criticisms, I would still chose the Haze over the Metal-oriented MA series but AlexR's suggestion of Blackstar is better by far.
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tonefreak1527
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
MA, or better HT-40
MA, or better HT-40
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Funkfingers
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
Er, have you tried running the Peavey circuitry through a more "Marshall-y" loudspeaker?
Er, have you tried running the Peavey circuitry through a more "Marshall-y" loudspeaker?
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grapeskeletons
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I have actually tried both these amps. I own the MA50c and am happy with it. The Haze sounded awful and flubby, and to my ears, didn't give that true Marshall sound at all. I am really glad I didn't buy one.
I got the MA50c instead. I may be one of the few who actually like it. Here are some limitations: the clean channel is bland and dark (not as warm or nice as my old DSL20), the overdrive channel is a bit flat. There's some sort of limiting in place, so even when you overdrive the channel with the booster switch, it doesn't get any louder, just more saturated. Overall, it's kind of a mellow sound, with not as much sustain or body as you might like. Those are the downs.
Pluses: it's a good all purpose amp--just don't expect it to sound like a JCM800. It has an effects loop and master volume. At band volumes, it gets a lot warmer, still not that classic Marshall crunch, but it does crunch, especially with hot pickups (it liked my Super Distortion and Breed, but it REALLY likes JBs...it seems to hate single coils....)
Eventually, I would like to get either a Vintage Modern combo or a DSL50 head/cab, but the MA50c is a low price, "real" amp that does every thing I need for now.
I have actually tried both these amps. I own the MA50c and am happy with it. The Haze sounded awful and flubby, and to my ears, didn't give that true Marshall sound at all. I am really glad I didn't buy one.
I got the MA50c instead. I may be one of the few who actually like it. Here are some limitations: the clean channel is bland and dark (not as warm or nice as my old DSL20), the overdrive channel is a bit flat. There's some sort of limiting in place, so even when you overdrive the channel with the booster switch, it doesn't get any louder, just more saturated. Overall, it's kind of a mellow sound, with not as much sustain or body as you might like. Those are the downs.
Pluses: it's a good all purpose amp--just don't expect it to sound like a JCM800. It has an effects loop and master volume. At band volumes, it gets a lot warmer, still not that classic Marshall crunch, but it does crunch, especially with hot pickups (it liked my Super Distortion and Breed, but it REALLY likes JBs...it seems to hate single coils....)
Eventually, I would like to get either a Vintage Modern combo or a DSL50 head/cab, but the MA50c is a low price, "real" amp that does every thing I need for now.
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grapeskeletons
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
I actually own the MA50c and have played a few parties with it outdoors. It is a tube amp and definately sounds like one. I'm pretty happy with it overall, though I do jones for a DSL50 head + cab or a Vintage Modern.
Here are the downsides: clean channel is bland and flat sounding. My old DSL201 sounded much more alive and vibrant. Then again, it had power, tone, and reliability issues (got it used). Overdrive channel is a little flat and cardboardy and lower volumes, sounds better at higher volumes. So-called "boost" feature doesn't raise volume, only saturation, making it vaguely useless. Crunch is not quite crunchy enough, sounds splattery for lack of a better term (again, you don't notice this quite as much at band volumes). It doesn't give that JCM800 crunch that you can easily get from a modeling MG amp--but then again, it won't exhaust your ears after 10 minutes of playing, either.
Upsides: it does like humbuckers, especially my JBs...did fine with EMG85 and Super Distortions, passable but dark with Breed. Basically, it is a compromise amp that sounds okay for the money.
I tried the Haze40 and did not like it at all. It sounded very flubby to my ears.
I actually own the MA50c and have played a few parties with it outdoors. It is a tube amp and definately sounds like one. I'm pretty happy with it overall, though I do jones for a DSL50 head + cab or a Vintage Modern.
Here are the downsides: clean channel is bland and flat sounding. My old DSL201 sounded much more alive and vibrant. Then again, it had power, tone, and reliability issues (got it used). Overdrive channel is a little flat and cardboardy and lower volumes, sounds better at higher volumes. So-called "boost" feature doesn't raise volume, only saturation, making it vaguely useless. Crunch is not quite crunchy enough, sounds splattery for lack of a better term (again, you don't notice this quite as much at band volumes). It doesn't give that JCM800 crunch that you can easily get from a modeling MG amp--but then again, it won't exhaust your ears after 10 minutes of playing, either.
Upsides: it does like humbuckers, especially my JBs...did fine with EMG85 and Super Distortions, passable but dark with Breed. Basically, it is a compromise amp that sounds okay for the money.
I tried the Haze40 and did not like it at all. It sounded very flubby to my ears.
Franknfilms
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richard parker
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Re: Marshall MA vs Haze
The MA demo sounded terrible to me. Lots of square-wavish distortion. No demonstration of the two channels. I really don't understand why Marshall can't come up with a decent two channel amp without any whistles and bells. I'd love to use a Marshall again but they seem to miss the target with every single product.
The MA demo sounded terrible to me. Lots of square-wavish distortion. No demonstration of the two channels. I really don't understand why Marshall can't come up with a decent two channel amp without any whistles and bells. I'd love to use a Marshall again but they seem to miss the target with every single product.
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