Marshall + Mesa EQ, John Sykes and Michael Nielsen

[PFDarkside]

Michael Nielsen has to be one of my favorite content creators on Youtube. He’s done Big Hairy Guitars for a few years but this year he’s ramped up the content due to being locked down so often.

They are all fun, but this is cool. A Mesa EQ in loop of a JCM800, add in a little effects in post and some John Sykes inspiration.

 

[Aceman]

SYKES IS WHITESNAKE!!!

 

[Securb]

SYKES IS WHITESNAKE!!!

Until Steve Vai showed up

 

[JMP/HBE]

If you need an EQ in the loop of an 800 you're doing it wrong.

 

[Cynical]

Real JCM800s don't have an effects loop.

 

[Mincer]

oh no.

 

[Aceman]

Until Steve Vai showed up

AFTER the band got famous....like Acatrazz, like Roth, like Whitesnake. If he could only make a band famous on his own. But the kid can learn other great player's licks really good!

 

[Securb]

AFTER the band got famous....like Acatrazz, like Roth, like Whitesnake. If he could only make a band famous on his own. But the kid can learn other great player's licks really good!

I like you you're silly.

 

[PFDarkside]

Real JCM800s don't have an effects loop.

His is a real one. And it does.

 

[Securb]

I don't understand how the loop in an 800 would drastically change the amp?

 

[Cynical]

I don't understand how the loop in an 800 would drastically change the amp?

A loop in an 800 means it's a reissue, not an original, and the reissues sound pretty different than the original vertical-input circuits. The reissues have a different midrange and are less saturated in the preamp.

 

[superpete]

if you watch the video he says its an original that has been modified with an fx loop

 

[NegativeEase]

Real JCM800s don't have an effects loop.

I have a 2203 with an effects loop. granted I had it added.

 

[JMP/HBE]

A loop in an 800 means it's a reissue, not an original, and the reissues sound pretty different than the original vertical-input circuits. The reissues have a different midrange and are less saturated in the preamp.

Most of Sykes Marshalls were modded by Jose Arredondo and had loops and remote standbys and whatever the owner wanted early to mid 80's when that wasn't available.
Sykes also played a variety of Mesa MK amps thru 4x12's full of Celestion G12-65's.
Nielsen is a studio guy.
He should drop the EQ and power station and crank that 800 to "6".

 

[Cynical]

modified

In other words, not an original JCM800.

 

[Securb]

The variance in the differences of how guitarists dialed in their Marshalls is so much more drastic than any change in tone an effects loop would add. If the effects loop added mids well dial in less mids. If it makes the amp bright, roll back the treble.

At the end of the day, an 800 is going to sound like thunder from the God effects loop or not, reissue or not. It just doesn't matter.

 

[superpete]

In other words, not an original JCM800.

if you want to be "that guy", sure, it is an original that has been modified to have an fx loop. but it is not a reissue which was my point, and I thought yours as well.

 

[Securb]

So 800 reissues sound bad?

 

[Cynical]

So 800 reissues sound bad?

Far from. But they're not quite as good as the originals.

 

[JMP/HBE]

Blue Murder 1989' Tokyo.
You certainly never hear big stereo guitar tone like this anymore.
Amazing.