Marshall + Mesa EQ, John Sykes and Michael Nielsen

[Securb]

I wholly agree with this. .

Bob, forgot probably one of the most influential recordings Vai played on "Album" and all of his Grammy wins and nomination post-90's. I think it is more you and Bob not being familiar with the man's body of work than the man's body of work lacking. And that is okay we can't do the deep dive on every artist.

 

[NegativeEase]

I have a 1986 2204 with a zero loss loop I had added. It’s completely transparent.

My 2204 with 6550s is the best amp I've ever owned. I sold it in 1999 for a 100 Watt and have regretted it ever since.

 

[Aceman]

Bob, forgot probably one of the most influential recordings Vai played on "Album" and all of his Grammy wins and nomination post-90's. I think it is more you and Bob not being familiar with the man's body of work than the man's body of work lacking. And that is okay we can't do the deep dive on every artist.

Hey - don't get me wrong. He is a way relief pitcher than Steve Morse.... ; }

 

[Aceman]

I could write pages showing how wrong you are but I will go with the premise if one thing in your argument is flawed so is your entire argument. Vai did not jump on board with the DLR band he was there from the beginning. He did not replace anyone. Once Vai left the band tanked and went from playing stadiums and theaters to doing club gigs.

Dave Jumped off the EVH wagon and had to replace Ed.

For the record - I think Vai should have stayed there. It was the perfect place for him to be him, and be popular.

Dave allows dhim to be "out there" whereas Whitesnake was not a Vai style or tone setting.

I appreciate Vais stuff, at least that that isn't so out there I'm all WTF about it. I get the man has a discography way beyond the mentioned things. But I rarely even listen to those...

 

[Bogner]

The only way Vai works in a band setting is if it is Vai's band. I think he is best suited and probably happiest doing his music score thing and writing and composing all these elaborate things he talks about. He is a magnificent player with probably more command over the guitar than anybody but that doesn't make him a band guy or a good band guy at that. He is into the show and elaborate aspect of things and parks there. Nothing wrong with it but his market is incredibly small in comparison. Market share doesn't always equate to skill or quality so don't get me wrong here. As was said previously, Vai never was able to do what Satriani did/does and even some others. I like Vai, I take Vai as is and try not to box him in or place an expectation on him. He is just out there and I am ok with that.

His Roth stuff was good and Passion was his pinnacle moment for me. Aside from that, his music doesn't do much for me.

 

[Securb]

The only way Vai works in a band setting is if it is Vai's band.

Vai has spent most of his career as a sideman, he worked perfectly in Zappa's band. I would suggest listening to "Album" by Public Image Limited. Vai works great in the band, there is very few guitar acrobatics. The players on the disk read like the who's who of music.

• John Lydon – lead vocals
• Bill Laswell - bass (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), producer
• Steve Vai – guitar
• Nicky Skopelitis – guitar (1-4, 6)
• Ryuichi Sakamoto – Fairlight CMI (2, 3, 5, 7)
• Bernie Worrell – organ (1, 4, 6) Yamaha DX7 (3)
• Ginger Baker – drums (3-5, 7)
• Tony Williams – drums (1, 2, 6)

 

[Bogner]

Vai has spent most of his career as a sideman, he worked perfectly in Zappa's band. I would suggest listening to "Album" by Public Image Limited. Vai works great in the band, there is very few guitar acrobatics. The players on the disk read like the who's who of music.

• John Lydon – lead vocals
• Bill Laswell - bass (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), producer
• Steve Vai – guitar
• Nicky Skopelitis – guitar (1-4, 6)
• Ryuichi Sakamoto – Fairlight CMI (2, 3, 5, 7)
• Bernie Worrell – organ (1, 4, 6) Yamaha DX7 (3)
• Ginger Baker – drums (3-5, 7)
• Tony Williams – drums (1, 2, 6)

Maybe I am thinking of the other Steve Vai who hasn't bounced around and done a bunch of solo stuff. He worked perfectly in Zappa because they are both out there. You are talking about the Public Image Limited "Album".... How many albums was that? To me, if he isn't focused on his own thing and doing his own thing he isn't at his best. YMMV

 

[PFDarkside]

Vai has spent most of his career as a sideman, he worked perfectly in Zappa's band. I would suggest listening to "Album" by Public Image Limited. Vai works great in the band, there is very few guitar acrobatics. The players on the disk read like the who's who of music.

• John Lydon – lead vocals
• Bill Laswell - bass (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), producer
• Steve Vai – guitar
• Nicky Skopelitis – guitar (1-4, 6)
• Ryuichi Sakamoto – Fairlight CMI (2, 3, 5, 7)
• Bernie Worrell – organ (1, 4, 6) Yamaha DX7 (3)
• Ginger Baker – drums (3-5, 7)
• Tony Williams – drums (1, 2, 6)

Wait. How did I not know that Steve Vai played with Johnny Rotten?

Also I love that they call out the DX7, as if it could be anything else in 1986.

 

[Securb]

Wait. How did I not know that Steve Vai played with Johnny Rotten?
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Chew on this a bit my friend, the whole album is awesome but this is the trippy long tune.

 

[Securb]

Keep in mind Steve Vai did this album the same year as Eat em and Smile so he was all over Mtv and radio with Rotten and Roth.

 

[PFDarkside]

I’ll dig into it.