Yngwiestein
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If you had to choose one which would it be?
Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
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Dr.Mavashi
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Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Bogner XTC, does both better then marshall ever intended, if you are into that sound, I am not ...
Bogner XTC, does both better then marshall ever intended, if you are into that sound, I am not ...
Yngwiestein
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Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
I'm in the group that thinks Bogner is a little overrated. Actually I'm making room for a new Splawn head. I have played both Bogners and Splawns and I lean towards Splawn amps.
I'm in the group that thinks Bogner is a little overrated. Actually I'm making room for a new Splawn head. I have played both Bogners and Splawns and I lean towards Splawn amps.
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Well I think Plexi and 800 are differen amps, not very different, I would say from what I've heard - I never played a plexi and only played an RI of 800, 800 was build toward a certain direction music was heading and Plexi while still build toward a certain direction of the music at the time was more of a musicians instrument, more musical ... I think Bogner is overpriced, not over rated. But it does a marshall thing at higher quality level than marshall by itself. Splawn is more of a hot-rodded marshall, kind of like Lee Jackson marshalls back in the day, or Lynch moded or EVH moded marshalls, only really compressed in addition.
Well I think Plexi and 800 are differen amps, not very different, I would say from what I've heard - I never played a plexi and only played an RI of 800, 800 was build toward a certain direction music was heading and Plexi while still build toward a certain direction of the music at the time was more of a musicians instrument, more musical ... I think Bogner is overpriced, not over rated. But it does a marshall thing at higher quality level than marshall by itself. Splawn is more of a hot-rodded marshall, kind of like Lee Jackson marshalls back in the day, or Lynch moded or EVH moded marshalls, only really compressed in addition.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Plexi....I still do not like those JCM800s.
Bogner...blah blah..sorry to all the fans...but man I think they are kinda dull.
Plexi....I still do not like those JCM800s.
Bogner...blah blah..sorry to all the fans...but man I think they are kinda dull.
Robert S.
Super Moderator
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Seeing as I have a 1984 800 and a 1969 Plexi at the house I am not going to choose.
They really are different sounding amps. Both amps are extremely loud.
I'll never let go of my 2203 and now that it has been converted to EL34s and has had a solid loop installed it really is a top notch El34 platform. That being said, after my Supro gets new pots and caps and I have a 30 watt Class A EL84 head made I may still have a Plexi clone built.
If for no other reason, nothing else sounds like a Plexi.
Seeing as I have a 1984 800 and a 1969 Plexi at the house I am not going to choose.
They really are different sounding amps. Both amps are extremely loud.
I'll never let go of my 2203 and now that it has been converted to EL34s and has had a solid loop installed it really is a top notch El34 platform. That being said, after my Supro gets new pots and caps and I have a 30 watt Class A EL84 head made I may still have a Plexi clone built.
If for no other reason, nothing else sounds like a Plexi.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
It's funny, Rid and I seem to be on the same line on the same page lately...
Plexi by a mile...800's have never blown me away...
Bogner...Splawn...yawn...just not that impressed...
It's funny, Rid and I seem to be on the same line on the same page lately...
Plexi by a mile...800's have never blown me away...
Bogner...Splawn...yawn...just not that impressed...
glassman
Electron Herder
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
I may be the odd man out here...don't get me wrong, the old Plexi Marshalls sound wonderful with the right guitar pushing them. I think yhat the blood pooling in my ears at the volume the sound level that they "wake up" at may be jading my opinion. "Some" 800's really get it for me. The ones with reverb do not. Marshall had several incarnations of the non-reverb 800; two different power supply voltages and some had a moderate gain increase over others in the preamp that IMO cut the bandwidth to much (they were thinner and somewhat nasally). Of course there was the Unicord decision to go with 6550 output tubes. Gimme a lower plate voltage (~380 volt), lower gain, EL34 equipped 800 and I'll be quiye happy.
Jerry
I may be the odd man out here...don't get me wrong, the old Plexi Marshalls sound wonderful with the right guitar pushing them. I think yhat the blood pooling in my ears at the volume the sound level that they "wake up" at may be jading my opinion. "Some" 800's really get it for me. The ones with reverb do not. Marshall had several incarnations of the non-reverb 800; two different power supply voltages and some had a moderate gain increase over others in the preamp that IMO cut the bandwidth to much (they were thinner and somewhat nasally). Of course there was the Unicord decision to go with 6550 output tubes. Gimme a lower plate voltage (~380 volt), lower gain, EL34 equipped 800 and I'll be quiye happy.
Jerry
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theodie
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Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
I dont care for 800's. Too buzzy and sort of Harsh.
I say Plexi but, I will take my 900 over either.
I dont care for 800's. Too buzzy and sort of Harsh.
I say Plexi but, I will take my 900 over either.
PFDarkside
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Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Never played a Plexi, but comparing a NMV JMP to a 2203, they are different beasts. Both need to be way too loud to give up the goods, and even though the MV allows you to turn up the gain, it tends to get buzzy. It sounds better with the gain lower and the volume higher. Either one needs a pedal to get into higher gain territory, so that's a wash. Probably a Plexi, but man is it really unusable for me at the good volumes.
I think I do prefer a Splawn or Bogner for more realistic stuff. But man, crank it possibly with a little boost and it's like God himself is smiling down.
Never played a Plexi, but comparing a NMV JMP to a 2203, they are different beasts. Both need to be way too loud to give up the goods, and even though the MV allows you to turn up the gain, it tends to get buzzy. It sounds better with the gain lower and the volume higher. Either one needs a pedal to get into higher gain territory, so that's a wash. Probably a Plexi, but man is it really unusable for me at the good volumes.
I think I do prefer a Splawn or Bogner for more realistic stuff. But man, crank it possibly with a little boost and it's like God himself is smiling down.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
I sold my Bogner.
I still have my Splawn.
That said, if forced to choose between the amps listed, I'd go Plexi. I think the Plexi has a more musical fundamental tone, thicker midrange, and if I need more gain than it can provide I can always hit it in the face with an OD pedal.
I sold my Bogner.
I still have my Splawn.
That said, if forced to choose between the amps listed, I'd go Plexi. I think the Plexi has a more musical fundamental tone, thicker midrange, and if I need more gain than it can provide I can always hit it in the face with an OD pedal.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Some of you guys seems to not know that Plexi heads have some marvelous cleans....and are great with pedals...
Some of you guys seems to not know that Plexi heads have some marvelous cleans....and are great with pedals...
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Hmmm... you seem like the right guy to ask. If you could, who would you describe the main tonal differences between the two of them?
Hmmm... you seem like the right guy to ask. If you could, who would you describe the main tonal differences between the two of them?
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Plexi with a boost pushing it.
Plexi with a boost pushing it.
SlowGroove
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Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Neither - ORANGE for me then !
James
Neither - ORANGE for me then !
James
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Plexi.
Plexi.
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: Marshall Plexi vs JCM800
Plexi, without a doubt!!!
Plexi, without a doubt!!!
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