Marshall "slash" AFD100 pretty much finished

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Slash totally sold out, boo! jk. of course, looks like a great amp.
Anno 2010 and they come up with an auto bias control :D yay.
 
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Oh wow, a silver face plate? Neat! Definitely will try one of these when they are released.
 
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Looks really cool. Tomorrow I will post some pics of what Slash was using on the first Velvet Revolver Tour. I was lucky enough to get to go backstage before the event and take pics of all the gear.

I'll get them up tomorrow when I have time to resize and post to photobucket.
 
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Jeff_H said:
Looks really cool. Tomorrow I will post some pics of what Slash was using on the first Velvet Revolver Tour. I was lucky enough to get to go backstage before the event and take pics of all the gear.

I'll get them up tomorrow when I have time to resize and post to photobucket.
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Ya I would love to see them!
 
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Gonna post them in a new thread bro.
 
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didn't slash already have a signature model and he also endorsed the vintage modern? Now he has another one? what exactly do they have to "engineer" if they've already put an amp out that slash used to record AFD? They have to engineer the logo? I don't get "signature" models. They seem like a rip to me.
 
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Mattr4president said:
didn't slash already have a signature model and he also endorsed the vintage modern? Now he has another one? what exactly do they have to "engineer" if they've already put an amp out that slash used to record AFD? They have to engineer the logo? I don't get "signature" models. They seem like a rip to me.
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Slash recorded Appetite with a modified Marshall that was rented from the studio. Story is this was one of the best sounding Marshall amps ever due to the mod and since it was a studio amp, it was used to record many other bands albums as well. Slash tried to steal it (i.e..- not return then rental to the studio since he didn't want to give it up). Eventually the studio tracked the amp down and stole it back from Slash.

Slash then toured with a few stock Marshall Jubilees, which were limited edition. They were destroyed during a riot after one of GNR's concerts, so Slash asked Marshall if they could make a few more. Marshall did, but named it the Slash model.

The current amo being developed is supposed to replicate the modified studio Marshall that Slash used to record the Appetite for Destruction album. Since it wasn't a stock amp, and no one has seen it since '87, Marshall is doing its best to try to replicate the tone without having access to the original amp.
 
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That's the story I heard too. Legendary amp that vanished like a fart in the wind.
 
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jmh151 said:
Slash recorded Appetite with a modified Marshall that was rented from the studio. Story is this was one of the best sounding Marshall amps ever due to the mod and since it was a studio amp, it was used to record many other bands albums as well. Slash tried to steal it (i.e..- not return then rental to the studio since he didn't want to give it up). Eventually the studio tracked the amp down and stole it back from Slash.

Slash then toured with a few stock Marshall Jubilees, which were limited edition. They were destroyed during a riot after one of GNR's concerts, so Slash asked Marshall if they could make a few more. Marshall did, but named it the Slash model.

The current amo being developed is supposed to replicate the modified studio Marshall that Slash used to record the Appetite for Destruction album. Since it wasn't a stock amp, and no one has seen it since '87, Marshall is doing its best to try to replicate the tone without having access to the original amp.
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Wow.

Yeah but today with a guitar players complicated signal path through a multitude of processors and pre-amps, the actual "Head Unit" is a third of a players tone and I think some people get ripped off when they buy the Signature amps and say "dude i don't sound anything like slash". Slash will sound like slash if he's playing through a Crate. Granted I'm sure the am will sound great and will get someone close but this just seems like a marketing ploy to me.
 
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jmh151 said:
Slash recorded Appetite with a modified Marshall that was rented from the studio. Story is this was one of the best sounding Marshall amps ever due to the mod and since it was a studio amp, it was used to record many other bands albums as well. Slash tried to steal it (i.e..- not return then rental to the studio since he didn't want to give it up). Eventually the studio tracked the amp down and stole it back from Slash.

Slash then toured with a few stock Marshall Jubilees, which were limited edition. They were destroyed during a riot after one of GNR's concerts, so Slash asked Marshall if they could make a few more. Marshall did, but named it the Slash model.

The current amo being developed is supposed to replicate the modified studio Marshall that Slash used to record the Appetite for Destruction album. Since it wasn't a stock amp, and no one has seen it since '87, Marshall is doing its best to try to replicate the tone without having access to the original amp.
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the special "#39" marshall slash used for AFD was a marshall super lead "tremolo" head that was modded by tim caswel. Tim modded the amp so that the extra 2 pre amp tubes that were used to power the tremolo part of the amp were used to to add 2 extra gain stages to the Marshall's pre amp; which added a lot of gain. Slash rented it from a company called "SIR" that was in LA for the AFD recording. And yes slash did try to steal it, but his tech at the time took it to GnR's band practice that took place at SIR studios, when the tech brought it, they people at SIR recognized it and took it back at once.

word is that George Lynch payed a small fortune to SIR to rent the amp to use on the first leg of Dokken's "under lock and key" tour. He also tried to buy the amp from SIR, but they wouldnt sell it to him. and yes....nobody knows where the #39 amp is today.
 
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Mattr4president said:
Wow.

Yeah but today with a guitar players complicated signal path through a multitude of processors and pre-amps, the actual "Head Unit" is a third of a players tone and I think some people get ripped off when they buy the Signature amps and say "dude i don't sound anything like slash". Slash will sound like slash if he's playing through a Crate. Granted I'm sure the am will sound great and will get someone close but this just seems like a marketing ploy to me.
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Actually they're trying to design this amp so if you plug a Les Paul into it it'll get you the tone. There's a video of him playing the prototype and it sounds really good
 
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The features they pack into this thing don't seem like a ploy to me. I've never heard of an amp that automatically biases itself and then sets a fixed bias for the volume level that you are playing at. That sounds pretty darned neat to me. Micro-controllers are not necessarily bad for tone and could be just the ticket for tube longevity and ease of maintenance.
 
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ya so i have a question......the little switch by the pre amp knob says: "AFD/#34"

now obviously with the switch on the "AFD" setting, it will give you slash's appetite tone, but what on earth is the "#34" setting supposed to be??
 
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jmh151 said:
Actually they're trying to design this amp so if you plug a Les Paul into it it'll get you the tone. There's a video of him playing the prototype and it sounds really good
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Yeah but that's a Les Paul with what kinda pick-up? probably his Signature Gibson Les Paul which is a Les Paul that they over charge for again. Like i said it sounds great, but the final factor in tone is in your hands. I could play that head and guitar and there's no way it's gonna sound like AFD, it's gonna sound like me.
 
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Mattr4president said:
Yeah but that's a Les Paul with what kinda pick-up? probably his Signature Gibson Les Paul which is a Les Paul that they over charge for again. Like i said it sounds great, but the final factor in tone is in your hands. I could play that head and guitar and there's no way it's gonna sound like AFD, it's gonna sound like me.
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If you think the pickup makes more of a difference than the amp, you're out of your mind, or you're deaf.

I think the importance goes like this:
1. Player
2. Amp
3. Guitar
4. Speakers
5. Effects
6. Pickups
Could be different, but there's no way I would put pickups above amp.
 
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misterwhizzy said:
If you think the pickup makes more of a difference than the amp, you're out of your mind, or you're deaf.

I think the importance goes like this:
1. Player
2. Amp
3. Guitar
4. Speakers
5. Effects
6. Pickups
Could be different, but there's no way I would put pickups above amp.
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ya if the pickup was more important than the amp.....we all could get the "brown sound" with a strat, the '78 CS humbucker and any old Roland cube solid state amp. :banghead:
 
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misterwhizzy said:
If you think the pickup makes more of a difference than the amp, you're out of your mind, or you're deaf.

I think the importance goes like this:
1. Player
2. Amp
3. Guitar
4. Speakers
5. Effects
6. Pickups
Could be different, but there's no way I would put pickups above amp.
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I didn't say that, I'm not putting pickups above the amp. What was said is if you plug in a les paul you will get that tone or close to it and I asked which les paul? The guitar/pickup combination makes a huge difference, a les paul with emgs for example, but not more important then the amp. The point was the final determination for that tone is the guitar player. I could get up on stage and take that guitar off slash's shoulder and I'm not gonna sound like him. I just think there are a lot of naive people with too much money who think they can buy a signature model and poof, you sound like that guitarist.
 
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they designed the amp so that you can plug in a LP and get as close as you can to slash's AFD tone (without having the man's hands of course). im sure you can get super close with any LP, but if you want to be as accurate as you can, the A2P "slash" pickups in a les paul, plugged into that amp would be the best thing
 
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Christopher Caruana said:
they designed the amp so that you can plug in a LP and get as close as you can to slash's AFD tone (without having the man's hands of course). im sure you can get super close with any LP, but if you want to be as accurate as you can, the A2P "slash" pickups in a les paul, plugged into that amp would be the best thing
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Exactly. There's no sense in splitting hairs further than that. What a user's expectations are is entirely up to them.

Mattr4president - I don't think Marshall is going to advertise the amp as if it's the only part of the equation that will be required to nail Slash's tone. It probably will be marketed as the most direct way to achieve his tone (after you buy a les paul of course). If he's running that amp live and in his future recordings, how exactly would this being a signature amp be a bad thing? I don't understand why there is a problem with it. If Marshall can nail the SIR #39 tone with a new design, why not make it a Slash Signature model? He has consistently endorsed their products and has been a sponsored artist of theirs throughout his career. It seems like a logical thing that they would make this a sig model for him since that tone has been his holy grail for all this time and he has given so much input into the design of the amp.
 
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