Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

[Dr.Mavashi]

I guess Billy Gibbons was noted using them once? Hard to believe as it I guess fully solid state, how can valvstate power amp have a little tube in to "warm it up"? Is ohms selection is just as important on these things as on the tube heads?

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

with a Tube Factor by H&K or Peavey Damage Control , with another multi FX rack processor in between, will anything decent come out of it?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

It's mostly going to depend on your preamp. The Valvestate 8008 is a good sounding power amp thats pretty easy to get, requires almost no work to keep going (no tubes, bias, etc) and is pretty light weight. FWIW, Billy G uses them all the time and has been for over 10 years now...he loves them.

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

fwiw they're also in iron maiden's live rigs(all 3 guitarists!)

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

I have one, works great and sounds awsome! The only problem is my channel B isn't working...

 

[ErikH]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

What Christian said. Real workhorses and the light weight is a plus. Much easier to lug around than the Dual Mono Blocs.

fwiw they're also in iron maiden's live rigs(all 3 guitarists!)

Incorrect. They use the Dual Mono Bloc power amps, or the tube loaded boat anchors as we used to call them at the shop I worked at...LOL.

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

ooooh! sorry 'bout that. however, i did see gibbons' rig with the same power amp as iron maiden's at one point, which is this one:
iron maiden(janick's spare rack):
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/J.Gers-(B-Rig).jpg
in the guitar player holiday issue, it showed a bunch of rigs, and they had the same power amp. the issue showed iron maiden's 2000 rig and billy's current rig.

 

[ErikH]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

ooooh! sorry 'bout that. however, i did see gibbons' rig with the same power amp as iron maiden's at one point, which is this one:
iron maiden(janick's spare rack):
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/J.Gers-(B-Rig).jpg
in the guitar player holiday issue, it showed a bunch of rigs, and they had the same power amp. the issue showed iron maiden's 2000 rig and billy's current rig.

Neither one of those two power amps in that rack are valvestates. Both of them are the Dual Mono Bloc, 100 watts PER side. Freakin' monsters. That rack has to weigh a ton.

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

What are the two Marshall units on top of the JMP1's?

 

[ErikH]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

What are the two Marshall units on top of the JMP1's?

Their multi-effects processors. Can't remember the models. I've played through a similar setup before with the effects processor, preamp and that same power amp through a couple Marshall 4x12's and it's a kickass setup.

 

[Animal]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

The effects processors are JFX-1.

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

Neither one of those two power amps in that rack are valvestates. Both of them are the Dual Mono Bloc, 100 watts PER side. Freakin' monsters. That rack has to weigh a ton.

i know they're not valvestates, i'm just saying that i've seen billy gibbons' rack have these in it too:cool2:

 

[Hellion]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

I use an 8008 in my main rig. They're a decent sounding power amp, fairly transparent. I use mine on the full range setting as opposed to the "Valvestate" setting. The speaker cab I run them into has two 8 ohm speakers, but they'll handle down to 4 ohm and in a way, it's even more important that you pay attention to the resistance, because it's a solid state amp.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

It's mostly going to depend on your preamp. The Valvestate 8008 is a good sounding power amp thats pretty easy to get, requires almost no work to keep going (no tubes, bias, etc) and is pretty light weight. FWIW, Billy G uses them all the time and has been for over 10 years now...he loves them.

Ok, so its completely solid, no starved power tube or anything like that. So its linear and valvestate options, what is the difference in those? And how exactly do the great BG use them?

P.S
all of this and other thread are for my singer who decided that eventually he would be one of those dudes with guitar.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

Allright, my bro got yesterday a old Peavey 412MS with Shefields 1290. Its 16 ohms mono and 8 stereo. So how does he rewire this cab for 8008 since its only 4 ohms?

 

[Jay 77]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

Allright, my bro got yesterday a old Peavey 412MS with Shefields 1290. Its 16 ohms mono and 8 stereo. So how does he rewire this cab for 8008 since its only 4 ohms?

Don't worry about it. I have that same cab, and used to run a VS100 head into it. The head was 4ohms as well. With solid state it's not such a big deal, and as long as the amp's ohms are lower than the cab, you're fine. That rig sounded huge, by the way.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

Don't worry about it. I have that same cab, and used to run a VS100 head into it. The head was 4ohms as well. With solid state it's not such a big deal, and as long as the amp's ohms are lower than the cab, you're fine. That rig sounded huge, by the way.

I thought it was other way around, that if you have 16 ohms on your cab and 4 on your head, you are running the risk of frying your amp.

 

[Jay 77]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

I thought it was other way around, that if you have 16 ohms on your cab and 4 on your head, you are running the risk of frying your amp.

As far as I know, it's the other way around. Cabs shouldn't be less than amps. I ran that rig for a decade with no issues.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

Peeps, some help please.

 

[Hellion]

Re: Marshall Valvstate 8008 power amp

The 8008 is rated at 80 watts per side at 4 ohms. I routinely run this amp into a 212 stereo cabinet with Emminence speakers rated at 8 ohms each. If I want to, I can run this same amp into two cabinets rated at 4 ohms (two 8 ohm speakers wired in parallel). I COULD (if I wanted to) run this amp into two cabinets rated at 16 ohms, but my volume would be reduced (the amp needs to be PUSHING something, that might be an easier way to look at it). Four ohms IS the bottom line. This amp (and almost any other amp I can think of) running at 2 ohms WILL fry (there's no debate here), because there's nothing for the amp to push against. It should be noted that tube amps are more forgiving than solid state when it comes to resistance. Does that help?