Matchless and Bad Cat Amps Thread

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I have tried a few Matchless amps and I really liked what I heard. What is cool about them is you get power tube breakup at reasonable volumes and they cover that half clean sound extremely well. They seem to have that old Marshall meets Vox sound nailed.
 
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So, for all those wondering about a guy who's owned exactly 89 guitar amps.....that's the end for me. Bogner Ecstasy and Matchless Chieftain. And to be honest, the Bogner's clean channel is every bit as good as the Chieftain's clean. I've even thought about doing the impossible and selling the Chieftain for a Bogner Duende Sola Mojado.

After Joe sold me on the Matchless a few years ago I bought a Chieftan. I sold all of my Marshalls shortly afterward. Then I got a hankering for a real Marshall again and bought one, then two, then three Marshalls. I sold them all over the last couple of months.

I still have my Chieftan.

That said, I prefer my old Fenders that my brother Bruce modded for me to the Chieftan.

That's partly because they sound like the sounds I hear in my head when I play through them and partly because the Chieftan is so loud and I prefer amps in the under 25 watt range.

But the Chieftan is the finest 50 watt amp I've ever owned and better than any Marshall I've ever owned with one possible exception: the JCM 800 Bruce and I rebuilt and tweaked for Matt of martin6stringcustoms recently.

I wish he'd comment on this amp here on the forum because I really thought it was a spectacular sounding Marshall when we finished it.

Lew
 
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I was on that Gear Page thread, looking at it today, and saw some tips about putting a 12AT7 in the PI position to tighten up the bottom end. I may try that. I've done a lot of tube swapping with my amp, but I'd really like to dial it in killer.

I really like the Chieftain. It'd kill me to sell that amp. However, I went to the Amp Show and sat around playing the new Matchless amps, and Phil is one heck of a designer.
That King Cobra is sick. I haven't even seen it on the Matchless site yet.
 
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I'd open it in Vegas next door to Ed Roman, since he doesn't sell amps! LOL

I've been thinking the same for years, just without the emoticon...

I've got it all planned out, even with a business plan in writing. All I need is a/some investor/s and a green card. Joint venture. You put the money and arrange the papers and I put the expertise/knowledge and the actual work.

Anybody?

:)

Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
Milano, Italy
 
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Just curious, does anyone out there know (roughly) how many of the Jorgensen JJ-30 models exsist? I read somewhere less than 40, and I know that Mr. Jorgensen himself lost two in the Nashville flood a few years back . . . I ask because I own one, which I ordered and bought new (97?).
 
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Sometimes, I almost feel embarrassed popping up in all these amp threads like Bogner/Matchless etc, but they're 2 California companies, and I was pretty deep in the music and gear scene out here. So here's a story from uncle GJ!

In the early 90's, I was playing in LA rock and blues bands, but also had a girlfriend that played stuff like Stevie Nicks. Her guitar player was an early partner in the Matchless Co. and I played bass in the band just to stay busy.

So, I had access to all the early Matchless amps, because the guitarist would bring a different one to practice every night. Awesome for me!!! I was using a Marshall/Mesa rack in my own band at the time, but was intrigued by these new $3000 amps, which had a lit up logo.

Like others said, Matchless was born by Mark Sampson and Phil Jamison's desire to build a roadworthy GREAT sounding Vox. Then, they branched out with other models loosely based on Bassman/JTM45 like the Chieftain and Clubman.

Being a rocker, I wasn't sure it was my sound back then, but kept my mind and ears open when the boutique craze hit. I learned what different amp models excelled at, and Matchless/Badcat is for the player that wants clean breakup at a normal stage volume.
The sound is more akin to Petty, Toad the Wet Sprocket, REM etc. If that's not your vibe, you don't need a Matchless or Badcat.

The main thing with boutique amps is to find ones that suit your exact style, and just because it has a high price tag doesn't mean you'll like it.

Early on, I realized how much better boutique amps were than even the old vintage amps. It's arguable, but I think I'm right. You just have to find the right one, and invest in it. You'll save money over time. Years ago, I determined that for ME, the Bogner was my dream gainy amp and the Matchless Chieftain was my dream clean amp.
I did everything I could, and sold all my stuff to get them, so I wouldn't have to keep going through subpar gear.

Overall, I think I did the right thing, because I haven't bought new amps in almost 10 years, because quite frankly, nothing can beat the Ecstasy or Chieftain....nothing. nada.
On the used market, I bought the Ecstasy head for $2175, 4-12 for $700, 212 for $375, and the Matchless for $2000. A lot of money upfront, but that was the end of the spending, so I actually saved money NOT going through more amps to nail the sound.
I even had other Matchless amps, which I sold. The Chieftain won. It even killed all the Fenders and Fender PtoP clones I owned.

So, for all those wondering about a guy who's owned exactly 89 guitar amps.....that's the end for me. Bogner Ecstasy and Matchless Chieftain. And to be honest, the Bogner's clean channel is every bit as good as the Chieftain's clean. I've even thought about doing the impossible and selling the Chieftain for a Bogner Duende Sola Mojado.

I remember that bogner sounding amazing.


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Well, in my case, Leo didn't build a 5E3 tweed deluxe that puts out 30-50W into two 12s. And at the time I ordered mine there were only three 4x6V6 amps out there: Victoria, /13 FTR, and Orange Rockerverb. Now there's the 65 Monterey, the Swart SST and Rivera have one as well. Sofar I love every 4x6V6 amp I've tried, but the Vic is still top of the heap for me.

But say you wanted a direct tweed clone, well, have you spotted a bandmaster recently? how about an original bassman in good working condition? if you could afford one, would you drop the vintage value to make it gigable? would you gig it? -that's where Vics start to become value for money.

I'm a bit like GJ in his instance: I bought the Vic on special order, and have tried a bunch of similarly priced amps since. A lot of nice stuff that I'd like to own for other uses and tones, but nothing that has made me want to move the Vic on and buy something else.

I know this next amp is production quality but the 4x6V6 Bruno/Vox is pretty damn sweet. Love that one.


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One of the best parts of the Matchless and Badcat amps are the transformers made in California by a very old school outfit. To whomever said he was going to build a Christine kit, get some US trannies for it. They sell them on eBay or you can get Westlabs.


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Just curious, does anyone out there know (roughly) how many of the Jorgensen JJ-30 models exsist? I read somewhere less than 40, and I know that Mr. Jorgensen himself lost two in the Nashville flood a few years back . . . I ask because I own one, which I ordered and bought new (97?).
I have no idea...but those are the numbers I always see .....40-50.
Maybe Phil can tell you.? .....shoot him an email, or give him a call.
good luck
 
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After Joe sold me on the Matchless a few years ago I bought a Chieftan. I sold all of my Marshalls shortly afterward. Then I got a hankering for a real Marshall again and bought one, then two, then three Marshalls. I sold them all over the last couple of months.

I still have my Chieftan.

That said, I prefer my old Fenders that my brother Bruce modded for me to the Chieftan.

That's partly because they sound like the sounds I hear in my head when I play through them and partly because the Chieftan is so loud and I prefer amps in the under 25 watt range.

But the Chieftan is the finest 50 watt amp I've ever owned and better than any Marshall I've ever owned with one possible exception: the JCM 800 Bruce and I rebuilt and tweaked for Matt of martin6stringcustoms recently.

I wish he'd comment on this amp here on the forum because I really thought it was a spectacular sounding Marshall when we finished it.

Lew

It's funny that 3 of my current favorite amps got mentioned in your post. Now, I've added a Fender Pro Reverb and huge sounding JCM 800 100W 212 combo to my stable.

The Chieftain is perhaps my favorite sounding clean EL-34 amp, while the Pro Reverb is my favorite clean 6L6 amp.

Hearing about Matt Martin's JCM 800 tweaked to perfection by your brother Bruce Collins has me wishing I could see what he'd do to mine. I may have to Email him and see if he can give me some 'do it yourself' tips, since I'm reluctant to ship that amp across the country.
 
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