Mesa Boogie F100 ??
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
It's another one of those Mesas that lack a 16 ohm tap, right?
Anyone know if Mesa says it's ok to run 16 ohm cabs off the 8 ohm, like Mesa officially says for the Rectifiers?
What then? Fendery cleans and hotrod Marshall/Laney-type dirty channel?
It's another one of those Mesas that lack a 16 ohm tap, right?
Anyone know if Mesa says it's ok to run 16 ohm cabs off the 8 ohm, like Mesa officially says for the Rectifiers?
What then? Fendery cleans and hotrod Marshall/Laney-type dirty channel?
Ascension
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Bee running my Boogies with 16 ohm cabs or speakers for many years never a problem.
My 1990 Mesa Subway Rocket in fact is running a WGS ET 10 and i intentionally bought the 16 ohm version to power soak it a little. Being I have to play at low levels so often and still get tone it lets me push the power amp just a bit harder. The tones in this little amp with that speaker are flat jaw dropping good!! I have gigged the heck out of this little rig and not one hint of a problem EVER!!
This was just a few weeks back unmiced with the little beast.
Bee running my Boogies with 16 ohm cabs or speakers for many years never a problem.
My 1990 Mesa Subway Rocket in fact is running a WGS ET 10 and i intentionally bought the 16 ohm version to power soak it a little. Being I have to play at low levels so often and still get tone it lets me push the power amp just a bit harder. The tones in this little amp with that speaker are flat jaw dropping good!! I have gigged the heck out of this little rig and not one hint of a problem EVER!!
This was just a few weeks back unmiced with the little beast.
Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
One thing to remember though, if it doesn't have a 16ohm tap;
If the cab is a 16ohm with two 8ohm sides (left/right for stereo), then you can simply run a cable from each 4ohm tap to each 8ohm cab-side for an even match.
Used to run my single recto that way into an old peavey xxx cab.
One thing to remember though, if it doesn't have a 16ohm tap;
If the cab is a 16ohm with two 8ohm sides (left/right for stereo), then you can simply run a cable from each 4ohm tap to each 8ohm cab-side for an even match.
Used to run my single recto that way into an old peavey xxx cab.
Van Noord
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Many users found them hard to dial in, and compared to other Mesa amps they weren't as feature laden.
The clean is very clean. No edge of breakup. That meant you either needed a pedal, or had to use a very low gain setting on the gain channel. Which then sacrificed your lead channel. So that turned off many users.
They are LOUD amps, and when dialed in properly and creatively, can sound great. To me, they were always a "foundation" amp. A solid base tone that you could build on top of with OD pedals, boosters and an EQ in the loop.
Many users found them hard to dial in, and compared to other Mesa amps they weren't as feature laden.
The clean is very clean. No edge of breakup. That meant you either needed a pedal, or had to use a very low gain setting on the gain channel. Which then sacrificed your lead channel. So that turned off many users.
They are LOUD amps, and when dialed in properly and creatively, can sound great. To me, they were always a "foundation" amp. A solid base tone that you could build on top of with OD pedals, boosters and an EQ in the loop.
Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Bought it.... goddamn this thing is loud.
Yeah I can see how the channel switching crowd might take issue with this. Channel one is kinda like a bass amp. Channel 2 gets crushingly loud in a hurry... medium gain is a quest for another day, once the ringing in my ears subsides
Bought it.... goddamn this thing is loud.
Yeah I can see how the channel switching crowd might take issue with this. Channel one is kinda like a bass amp. Channel 2 gets crushingly loud in a hurry... medium gain is a quest for another day, once the ringing in my ears subsides
Boogie Bill
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Easy amp to dial in if you read the manual. The amp was designed to be a Twin Reverb killer. The cleans are terrific, and you can get those soaring lead tones of a Mark Boogie, but it is not an amp I'd use for metal. It should be great with pedals, so I'd recommend using a "metal" pedal in front of it.
All of those F-Series amps are good bargains used and terrific for the classic rock/blues/jazz/country player.
If it doesn't have them, you can get track casters from Mesa. Like any 212 tube combo, it is a beast. I recommend regular workouts at the gym.
And for a wicked half-stack, use a Mesa Horizontal Recto V30 212 closed back cab underneath it.
Bill
Easy amp to dial in if you read the manual. The amp was designed to be a Twin Reverb killer. The cleans are terrific, and you can get those soaring lead tones of a Mark Boogie, but it is not an amp I'd use for metal. It should be great with pedals, so I'd recommend using a "metal" pedal in front of it.
All of those F-Series amps are good bargains used and terrific for the classic rock/blues/jazz/country player.
If it doesn't have them, you can get track casters from Mesa. Like any 212 tube combo, it is a beast. I recommend regular workouts at the gym.
And for a wicked half-stack, use a Mesa Horizontal Recto V30 212 closed back cab underneath it.
Bill
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I got the 100w head w/footswitch. Too cheap to pass up for $380.
It can get pretty thrashy, albeit deafeningly loud on the gain channel... even set to 60w and with a 16ohm cab off the 8ohm tap.
Gonna do the weird "modified patch cable" mod (send plug cut off and just there to trigger the active jack, return plug hot and ground solder shorted together) for making the parallel FX loop mix control into a second master volume, everyone on the internet claims it's a must
PS wth is the point of a parallel loop? So damn weird
Easy amp to dial in if you read the manual. The amp was designed to be a Twin Reverb killer. The cleans are terrific, and you can get those soaring lead tones of a Mark Boogie, but it is not an amp I'd use for metal. It should be great with pedals, so I'd recommend using a "metal" pedal in front of it.
All of those F-Series amps are good bargains used and terrific for the classic rock/blues/jazz/country player.
If it doesn't have them, you can get track casters from Mesa. Like any 212 tube combo, it is a beast. I recommend regular workouts at the gym.
And for a wicked half-stack, use a Mesa Horizontal Recto V30 212 closed back cab underneath it.
Bill
I got the 100w head w/footswitch. Too cheap to pass up for $380.
It can get pretty thrashy, albeit deafeningly loud on the gain channel... even set to 60w and with a 16ohm cab off the 8ohm tap.
Gonna do the weird "modified patch cable" mod (send plug cut off and just there to trigger the active jack, return plug hot and ground solder shorted together) for making the parallel FX loop mix control into a second master volume, everyone on the internet claims it's a must
PS wth is the point of a parallel loop? So damn weird
Boogie Bill
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Parallel does have its advantages, but I've only found it effective if I'm using only ONE effect...delay or reverb, in the loop. It does allow you to use the effect full on, and then use the amp's loop control to blend in the effect. The channels' GAIN and MASTER VOLUME act as effects sends and returns, respectively.
As I understand things, if properly set up, it minimizes noise and distortion in the effect.
Bill
Parallel does have its advantages, but I've only found it effective if I'm using only ONE effect...delay or reverb, in the loop. It does allow you to use the effect full on, and then use the amp's loop control to blend in the effect. The channels' GAIN and MASTER VOLUME act as effects sends and returns, respectively.
As I understand things, if properly set up, it minimizes noise and distortion in the effect.
Bill
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Many effects now have the kill-dry feature just for parallel loops, but just as Bill said they really are only useful for an individual effect because you dial it with the mix knob on the amp.
Running multiple effects you end up with too much of some and not enough of others, and trying to dial between multiple effects intensities and the mix knob defeats the purpose and gets complicated and never sounds as good IMO.
Many effects now have the kill-dry feature just for parallel loops, but just as Bill said they really are only useful for an individual effect because you dial it with the mix knob on the amp.
Running multiple effects you end up with too much of some and not enough of others, and trying to dial between multiple effects intensities and the mix knob defeats the purpose and gets complicated and never sounds as good IMO.
Jacew
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Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
Of course you can always use Lehle or such to make serial loop into parallel. And many effects have blend control. Kill dry is much less usual.
I don't see any advantages in parallel design really...
Of course you can always use Lehle or such to make serial loop into parallel. And many effects have blend control. Kill dry is much less usual.
I don't see any advantages in parallel design really...
Re: Mesa Boogie F100 ??
What's the point of paying for a Mesa badge if you just want to PA your stompboxes??
What's the point of paying for a Mesa badge if you just want to PA your stompboxes??
Demanic
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Well, at least you're PAing them through a Mesa.
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