Mesa stilettos

mwalluk

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Is there a difference in tone or features between the ace, deuce and trident? I know wattage increase, as does head room, but does anything else?
 
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Just be sure to buy a series II. The original series were fussy (moreso than usual for a boogie) and they tweaked ithem for better overall tone. Less buzzy and harsh treble, more complex midrange.
 
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Just be sure to buy a series II. The original series were fussy (moreso than usual for a boogie) and they tweaked ithem for better overall tone. Less buzzy and harsh treble, more complex midrange.

Is there any way to tell if its series ii by looking at it?
 
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All the ACE models are series II.

I believe the deuce and trident are marked as such on the back panel, IIRC. May wanna check the boogie site or shoot them an email. I am not 100% sure.
 
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Ya, you definitely want a series2 IMO. They are marked so it will be easy to tell. I had the Stiletto deuce for about 6 months. Nice cleans for an EL-34 based amp. The overdrive is definitely different than a recto: much tighter low end and far more aggressive in the upper mids and highs. I wouldn't say shrill....but if you get one you'll definitely want to fine tune the EQ as it is a very bright amp and the highs can fly away on you when you start getting up to jam/gig volume. It is certainly an amp that can cut through a mix, that is for sure. For the price they go for now I think they are a great value. My only big quip with them was I really wanted to be able to switch between the tight drive for a rhythm sound and fluid drive for leads. I ended up selling my deuce and using the money to fund a Hughes and Kettner Triamp Mk2....which can do all what the Stiletto could and much more....but is also obviously much pricier.
 
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I read a real interesting interview from the creators and they were talking about the sweet factor of the 50. And do you really need more than 50?
 
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No. I believe the features are all the same. However, Deuce has option of 100/50 watt switch. I change up amps alot, so Deuce may have more resale value.
 
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If you find a good deal on the Series 1 versions, you can have a Boogie repair facility do the "Hollywood mod" which is a MesaBoogie mod to get the series one versions closer to the tones of the series 2. Last I knew, most authorized dealers charge $100 for the mod. I liked the Stiletto. Like mentioned, it's tight, fairly bright, good cut, good cleans, NICE FX loop.
 
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The Ace was my main amp for a few years until I switched to the Mark V. The only reason I sold the Stiletto was to fund the V. Were I a wealthier guy I would definitely still have it.

Never wanted more clean headroom with that amp, honestly. If you want sparkly clean and Recto-style distortion, none of the Stiletto's will suit you. If you want a chimey, throaty clean and a searing, snarling lead tone, the Ace is perfect. There's something magic about the Ace - I've tried a Deuce version 2 as well, and it just didn't have that same feel, even in 50W mode. I think the OT is different on the Ace.

If I had kept the Ace, I would have used it as my lead tone amp; it really cuts and sounds fantastic on tape for solos. It's an excellent amp if you're in a band with another guitarist, especially someone who uses a Recto/6L6 style of amp.

If resale value is a concern, the difference on the used market seems to be small (usually $100 less for an Ace). I sold mine last year for $1000.
 
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Never wanted more clean headroom with that amp, honestly. If you want sparkly clean and Recto-style distortion, none of the Stiletto's will suit you. If you want a chimey, throaty clean and a searing, snarling lead tone, the Ace is perfect. There's something magic about the Ace - I've tried a Deuce version 2 as well, and it just didn't have that same feel, even in 50W mode. I think the OT is different on the Ace.

If I had kept the Ace, I would have used it as my lead tone amp; it really cuts and sounds fantastic on tape for solos. It's an excellent amp if you're in a band with another guitarist, especially someone who uses a Recto/6L6 style of amp..

How is it for rhythm work?
 
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Search YouTube for some of Andy Timmons' videos and his rig rundown. He's a Mesa endorser and a Stiletto Deuce user and one heck of a player.

I really like the Stiletto Ace; even though I have six other Mesa amps, I'm thinking about getting one. I don't have a need for the more powerful Deuce or Trident heads.

The Stiletto is Mesa's take on a Marshall, and they really have built a better mousetrap.

Bill
 
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The Ace was my main amp for a few years until I switched to the Mark V. The only reason I sold the Stiletto was to fund the V. Were I a wealthier guy I would definitely still have it.

Never wanted more clean headroom with that amp, honestly. If you want sparkly clean and Recto-style distortion, none of the Stiletto's will suit you. If you want a chimey, throaty clean and a searing, snarling lead tone, the Ace is perfect. There's something magic about the Ace - I've tried a Deuce version 2 as well, and it just didn't have that same feel, even in 50W mode. I think the OT is different on the Ace.

If I had kept the Ace, I would have used it as my lead tone amp; it really cuts and sounds fantastic on tape for solos. It's an excellent amp if you're in a band with another guitarist, especially someone who uses a Recto/6L6 style of amp.

If resale value is a concern, the difference on the used market seems to be small (usually $100 less for an Ace). I sold mine last year for $1000.

I had a Stiletto Deuce with the Hollywood mod and thought it had EXCELLENT cleans and damn near close to Recto distortion on the Liquid Drive mode. I used Tite Gain for 90% of my gain playing and it will cut through a mix with ease. It worked really well with all of my cabs, but seemed to really work well with my CL80/G12T mix. It's not quite as big and burly as it's Recto brother, but it's got some attitude.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_as6ltiB7YE

That's my Stiletto ace, fluid drive channel with only a touch of delay through the effects loop. I think the folks that struggle with brightness on these amps try to eq them like a Marshall - jamming everything to 10 and wondering why it sounds so bright. Seymour lil 59 in the neck on that guitar.
 
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