mesa triple rec or dual

[rainsong86]

for those of you who have played both.. which plays better, a mesa boogie dual rectifier or triple rectifier.. obviously the triple can get more dBs but that really doesn't matter to me since the dual rec has plenty of head room for clean channel anyways.. I'm talking tone here, not power.. which do you think sounds better?

 

[3'scompany]

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Speaking from personal experience, the triple is kinda over kill. I kinda wish I would have opted for the dual. You'll hardly ever find yourself in a situation where you need 150 watts. But if its bragging rights you want to unknowledgeable musicians, spend the extra 100 bucks and get the Triple. You'd be surprised at how many kids at shows are wowed by it.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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From everything I've heard from Rectifier owners, the best formula is a Dual Rectifier that's been modded by a tech with an internal bias pot. Mesas come with a fixed bias, and it runs the tubes in a cold 'safe zone.' Many pro Mesa users, who have great tone, have a bias pot installed, and use better tubes than the amp ships with.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of the Recs, but I think the Dual and Single sound the best. The triple has another channel, but the amp sounds a little more sterile. The 150W one is so damn loud, it's almost impossible to get a decent tone out of it at useable volumes.

 

[Guitarist]

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Definetely the Dual, out of experience...trust me. Overkill is not an exaggeration.

 

[Jeroen]

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I guess it really depends on how loud you're gonna play or how much power amp headroom you need. But I can imagine the Triple is a bit of an overkill. I've never fully cranked my 100 watts of H&K Triamp-power, and I hope I'll never have to, LOL. MAN, that thing is loud at 5!

 

[some_dude]

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The Dual sounds a little "looser", and is better for power tube saturated lead tones. The Triple is a little "tighter" and is better for scooped mid, machine gun type rhythm.

But, those above comments are broad generalizations. Both do lead and rhythm tones quite well.

The truth of the matter is that there is very little volume difference between the Dual and Triple Rectifiers, they're both really f*cking loud, and in reality if you can't drive a Triple to saturation because of the volume, chances are you wouldn't be able to drive the Dual either. If possible, try both at "gig volumes" and choose whichever one makes your d*ck hard. And if after playing them you still can't figure out which you like better, get the Dual.

 

[LesPaulRules]

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I've always thought the Dual simply sounded better than the Triple. I would even take a single recto over a triple.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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Without intending to hijack this thread, I'd like to ask the same about the dual rec vs. single. Anyone?

- Keith

 

[Guitarist]

Re: mesa triple rec or dual

Without intending to hijack this thread, I'd like to ask the same about the dual rec vs. single. Anyone?

- Keith

Most people that are lured to the Dual are the ones seeking more headroom and the extra channel that the newer models have.

Lots of people claim that the Dual sounds more organic and many say that the Single is tighter and has a more lively clean. Some say that they sound the same.

Of course with the Dual, you get many more options to tweak your sound...the Rectifier Select Switch, the souped up FX loop...

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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the souped up FX loop...

Souped up how?

 

[Guitarist]

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Well, the Single has a RET/SEND and a mix...while the Dual has the stated with an additional SEND level and it also allows the loop to be assigned to a certain channel, which can be activated by footswitch.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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I like single's more. You can have the amp at higher volumes, giving you a warmer overdrive, and still not be pissing the rest of the band off.

I've found the same thing with my single rec. I've never owned a dual so I never knew what I was missing, but I always felt my single had more than enough headroom to satisfy/piss off the rest of the band.

 

[Metalman_666]

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I would say if it's a choice between the Dual and Triple Rectos, it's got to be the Dual unless you're playing huge stadiums and need all that extra headroom. This isn't from personal experience though, as I've never owned one or played either for more than 20 minutes. Like everyone else said it just makes sense to go with the Dual for reasons already stated.

As for the Single Recto, I would probably go for that as I know that 50 tube watts is more than enough for any gigging band applications. Hell I think maybe bigger touring bands could easily make good use of it. Some say it breaks up sooner so the distortion sounds better at lower volumes, unlike the Dual and Triple.

 

[joelap]

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I've also heard that the older, 2 channel Dual Recto's are more organic and less "buzzy" than the newer three channel ones. I don't have any experience, so I cant verify/deny those statements, but maybe it's something to bear in mind when making a decision?

 

[muttonchopsrule]

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dual recto running at 1/2 power

 

[Telesexual]

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dual but, I would go with a single.

 

[34029324079]

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dual, get the new one, they are tricked out with that effects loop. get dave grohl tone, you cant go wrong!

 

[some_dude]

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I've also heard that the older, 2 channel Dual Recto's are more organic and less "buzzy" than the newer three channel ones. I don't have any experience, so I cant verify/deny those statements, but maybe it's something to bear in mind when making a decision?

With some tweeking you can get them to sound the same.

Keep in mind that "warmer" typically means "doesn't cut as well in a band mix". There's a reason Mesa modified the circuit the way they did....which is something else to bear in mind when making a decision.

 

[H8Red442]

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The Single, Dual and Triple all have different tonal qualities above and beyond the power qualities. The Single has a great sound with great sizzle and punch. However now after having owned a Dual for the last few months the Dual sounds chunkier. Not slow or sloppy just beefier. The Triple is very compressed. Not that it sounds bad but it just doesn't sound as natural. I'd say the Dual is the best of them all because you not only get the power you may never need, but it sounds the best. AND!!! And, if you so desire you can run it in 50 watt mode by pullin the two middle tubes and a rectifier tube to lower the power and it still has the sound of a Dual.

 

[Nite_Maresz_25]

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the Triple is overkill, and the dual might be a little to much still if you're not playing fairly large venues often.