MIA tele refinish project

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considering it is a high quality neck that i have...im wondering whether i should go ahead and finish this body or pick up one from the web specials at usacg...

ill continue with prepping this one for just now. Progress since the last pic:

Ive decided this one is definitely getting a solid color finish if i go that far. The 4 piece body just wont look good under any kind of trans finish. Also, it looks like during the last refinish, the body wasnt sealed properly and some dirt or paint has sunk into the grain. Ive tried to get it out using acetone and sanding, but its not happening.

Ive sanded out the cut away using 80 grit and then hand sanded the whole body down to 220 grit to prepare it for the sand and sealer. I like to sand it really well at this stage, make sure it is nice and smooth. During the sanding here, ill use acetone to take all the dust off and raise the grain. Im only using acetone at this stage because it evaporates much faster than mineral spirits. Once im done with the 220 grit sanding, ill do one more acetone wash and then its ready to go.

NOTE: you cannot use acetone after this stage because as soon as you have sand and sealer or any kind of lacquer on there, the acetone may dissolve it. Its mineral spirits from here on out. Let me note, all the products im using are nitro based. You can get pretty much everything you need from the colortone line at stewmac, and a local hardware store

My procedure for the sand and sealer is fairly simple. Ill spray three coats before i sand it. The sanding is done using 220 grit. My trick is to spray the sides with the top and then again with the back. so every time the top and back get one coat, the sides get two. This is because its much harder to build up layers on the edges. Its not so important here but it will save you a ton of sand throughs when you get to the color and clear coats.

So i follow the three coat then sand rule until ive gone through a can of sand and sealer. This might seem excessive, but the spray cans go pretty quick and i sand fairly well to make sure its as flat and smooth as possible. After every round of sanding, wipe it down with mineral spirits to remove dust. My timeline for this is usually as follows: spray a coat in the morning before i go to work, spray one when i get home from work and sand when necessary

Ill post a pic when all that is done and its rdy for the color coat.

BTW: painters tape is your friend here. i use it to tape off the neck pocket and cavities so you are not building up layers in places you dont want
 
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awesome man, thanks for the heads up. im still a little wary of the 4 piece body but what the heck.

cheers
 
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Well looks like I was wrong... again. The MIM bodies do have that route, but several MIA ones do as well, including the standard and deluxe. :amish:
 
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Very nice from you to take us through the process of refinishing this tele body. Before I read your thread, I was clueless about the use of chemical in the process... apart from elbow oil:jester:

Won't this be vault worthy by the end of the process?
 
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Very nice from you to take us through the process of refinishing this tele body. Before I read your thread, I was clueless about the use of chemical in the process... apart from elbow oil:jester:

Won't this be vault worthy by the end of the process?

hopefully. that was the general idea of making a thread out of this process since every once in a while people ask random refinishing questions.
 
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so i made my decision on what type of finish this is getting. Its one of those blue moon days where the reranch store is actually open so......i decided on using the gibson goldtop finish, gonna put it on the whole body.

this will be a first for me too, ive never sprayed with anything metallic, an adventure for all
 
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this will be a first for me too, ive never sprayed with anything metallic, an adventure for all

The only thing you have to really be careful about is how wet you spray. Lean on the dry side when shooting metallics otherwise the tiny flakes don't lay right. No sanding the color coat, either. Because nitro melts into the previous coats you'll want to keep the first couple coats of clear very thin as well. You may have already known that, I'm throwing it out there for anyone who may not.

I've used the Reranch Coppertone Metallic with seemingly good success. I managed to chip a small section at the bottom strap button and really got an idea of just how thin the paint is. During the process of shooting the sand & sealer, primer, color, and finally the clear coat you don't really get a sense of how thin the finish really is. Given the number of passes I took I would have thought the finish would be much thicker than it is.
 
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thanks for the heads up. any hints or tips will not only benefit me, but this thread in general if it ends up getting vaulted
 
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even if the body was a MIM it should still be good.. in some cases there is not much difference in the quality of the wood used on MIM and MIA Standards...
 
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Gold top eh? I've been wanting to do a gold top Tele for a while... lol

Anyway, if the body is an American, it'll have that bolt in the neck pocket for the micro-tilt. I don't think the MIM's have that "feature"... could be wrong.

For the pickup cavity's get a Dremel tool with a wire brush or flap wheel. It'll go quick...
 
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so i made my decision on what type of finish this is getting. Its one of those blue moon days where the reranch store is actually open so......i decided on using the gibson goldtop finish, gonna put it on the whole body.

That sounds awesome. I hope it turns out great for you...looks like you've done a fine job so far!

Great, now I've got Goldtop Tele GAS! :thanks:
 
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Gold tops are always a classy choice. Best of luck! I'll be awaiting pictures of the progress.
 
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Here is a lil' trick when shooting metallics from a rattle can. On your last pass B4 you clear coat. Lay the body down horizontally, Hold the can on a 90 degree angle about a foot away from the body & a foot above. As you spray seemingly into thin air, You'll see all the metallic flakes falling onto the body. Keep it even ,And that's how you get the most dramatic metallic effect. This is not my original idea. It's in Bill's refinishing 101. I did this on a Lake Placid Blue strat and a J-bass I was painting. By the time I got to the J-bass I was almost out of paint and I didn't do the misting FX. It's a night and day difference. The Strat SCREAMS METALLIC ! while J-bass is just blue with some flake.:approve:
 
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Here is a lil' trick when shooting metallics from a rattle can. On your last pass B4 you clear coat. Lay the body down horizontally, Hold the can on a 90 degree angle about a foot away from the body & a foot above. As you spray seemingly into thin air, You'll see all the metallic flakes falling onto the body. Keep it even ,And that's how you get the most dramatic metallic effect. This is not my original idea. It's in Bill's refinishing 101. I did this on a Lake Placid Blue strat and a J-bass I was painting. By the time I got to the J-bass I was almost out of paint and I didn't do the misting FX. It's a night and day difference. The Strat SCREAMS METALLIC ! while J-bass is just blue with some flake.:approve:

cheers kmc, i do remember reading that but it had slipped my mind. much appreciated
 
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I'm going to have to try that on my Aria strat. Thanks for the tip, KMC!
 
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