mid scoop humbucker choices....

Regarding the 59 bridge, you think it will have enough beef in the charvel? It's a roasted mahogany body, really feels sense and heavy. My concern about the 59 is that it might be too vintage sounding and not quite enough oomph for soaring type leads. I know the custom 5 can do this however as I mentioned its a bit too hot. I wonder if I could get a custom shop version with around 12k resistance?
 
Yeah the custom hybrid shows 6/8/8 on the tone chart. I hear the mids there for sure, although it seems at a certain notch that's its own thing. I don't know if I care for it in the demo videos, but you never know in your own guitar.
Still leaning towards the custom 5, although I wish I could lower the output. Yeah, lower the pickup height but I always find that to take away the attack and immediacy you get with a pickup closer to the strings.

If I threw in an unoriented A5 magnet maybe that would reduce the output, but would it also change the tone significantly?


Thats the great thing on UOA5 magents. It has the same ingrediences, but its cooked a little different literally. Its a real A5 magnet, but a bit milder like a combo between A5 and A2.
 
The C/59 hybrid doesn't sound like it's got much in the mids to me. The demo on the website is a little misleading. And it definitely doesn't have 6/8/8. I'd probably rate it a 5/5/8 or 6/5/8. But that's just my ear.

The Demon is a good suggestion but it's not what I'd call "mid-scooped". It has a very even sounding tonal spectrum to me. A very good sounding pup (I've got it in the neck of a few of my guitars) and not quite as high output as the 10k would imply.

Depending on how middy your guitar sounds the Demon may not be right for you, as much as I like it. I still think that the C/59 is the perfect choice for your guitar.
 
Regarding the 59 hybrid, I hear a certain midrange notch in this demo video. Start at 2:56 for the heavier guitar sound which I'm going to be doing mostly with the Charvel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9IVy43dqY&t=314s

Do most of you have this sound in your guitars? I know it can be different in other guitars, but if this is the sound honestly I'm not big on it. Its like someone boosted an EQ at that frequency. Is this the result of having two different pickup coils and some sort of comb filtering effect? It doesn't sound much like a 59 or Custom 5. Maybe this video isn't be best representation of this pickup? But its a SD video....

Clue me in here if I'm not getting something!

Thanks
 
Regarding the 59 hybrid, I hear a certain midrange notch in this demo video. Start at 2:56 for the heavier guitar sound which I'm going to be doing mostly with the Charvel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9IVy43dqY&t=314s

Do most of you have this sound in your guitars? I know it can be different in other guitars, but if this is the sound honestly I'm not big on it. Its like someone boosted an EQ at that frequency. Is this the result of having two different pickup coils and some sort of comb filtering effect? It doesn't sound much like a 59 or Custom 5. Maybe this video isn't be best representation of this pickup? But its a SD video....

Clue me in here if I'm not getting something!

Thanks

I'd say his amp has more to do with that tone than the pickups.
 
Trying to find another demo of the hybrid that's really good...most are just metal stuff which I have no interest in.
 
Regarding the 59 bridge, you think it will have enough beef in the charvel? It's a roasted mahogany body, really feels sense and heavy. My concern about the 59 is that it might be too vintage sounding and not quite enough oomph for soaring type leads. I know the custom 5 can do this however as I mentioned its a bit too hot. I wonder if I could get a custom shop version with around 12k resistance?

You might take a look at the Perpetual Burn as mentioned upthread. At 13K, it's a lot like an underwound Custom 5.
Rich enough to soar with gain yet open enough to clean up pretty nicely, and well-defined in lower gain situations too.

I still think it's worth trying an A3 in your Custom 5 though. Less pushed and more vintagey, kinda like a strong PAF.
Not scooped per se, but gentler and less fat. After all, the right flavor of midrange makes lead lines take off and fly...
 
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I haven’t installed my Perpetual Burn yet, but on paper, it seems like it would be a good fit for you. Lower output than the C5 but still with a mid scoop.

Yep the Perpetual Burn is my suggestion also. The Hybrid is absolutely NOT scooped and even though it on paper is not as hot as the Custom 5 to me feels much hotter in reality because of it's explosive mids.
 
Yep the Perpetual Burn is my suggestion also. The Hybrid is absolutely NOT scooped and even though it on paper is not as hot as the Custom 5 to me feels much hotter in reality because of it's explosive mids.

I don't get that at all from the 2 I have.
 
Regarding the 59 hybrid, I hear a certain midrange notch in this demo video. Start at 2:56 for the heavier guitar sound which I'm going to be doing mostly with the Charvel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9IVy43dqY&t=314s

Do most of you have this sound in your guitars? I know it can be different in other guitars, but if this is the sound honestly I'm not big on it. Its like someone boosted an EQ at that frequency. Is this the result of having two different pickup coils and some sort of comb filtering effect? It doesn't sound much like a 59 or Custom 5. Maybe this video isn't be best representation of this pickup? But its a SD video....

Clue me in here if I'm not getting something!

Thanks

Keep in mind that the end result you hear in a clip, album, song or video isn't just the guitar, pickup, wood, amp, pedal, speaker cab, speakers, etc...

...it's also the studio/DAW post processing. In fact, the studio/DAW post-processing can take all of the former and totally twist things tone-wise.

Also, it's standard to boost mids for solos in the studio/DAW... so they very well may have boosted an EQ somewhere.
 
Yeah - as much as I'd like to think that the vid was not mega-edited/produced....the reality is that a) They did not show/tell how it was recorded, and b) They are in the business of making the pickups sound good. That is an advertisement, not a video.

I did a straight recording of three guitars with a neck A2P, PG and T-Top once. Guitar, amp, cab, Shure 57, iPhone. Into garage band no editing. THAT was what the pickups sounded like.

And even then, it was through a Mesa on a dirt channel....so, those pickups through that amp using LP style guitars.
 
I just heard that video, I am not an expert but sounds like lots of mids, maybe even honky. I am not saying that is a bad thing. Are my ears correct?
 
Yep the Perpetual Burn is my suggestion also. The Hybrid is absolutely NOT scooped and even though it on paper is not as hot as the Custom 5 to me feels much hotter in reality because of it's explosive mids.

I've tried a couple different pickups in three different guitars and did not get that result at all. While not quite as harsh as a Custom 5, they are not anything like you describe to my ears
 
I'm in a similar situation. I have a '70's Aria Les Paul that is really midrangey. I have a Suhr Aldrich in it, and it's doesn't have enough cut. Really surprised me given Doug Aldrich's tone.
Wrong guitar I think. I just ordered a Wilde L500XL. I have one in my '83 Destroyer, which has a Basswood body with a thin maple cap. It really works great in that, so we'll see.
In my main ride, a '76 Sen bodied Destroyer (with a Floyd routed in by Gary Brauer), I have a 59/Custom with an A8 magnet. It will never come out of that guitar. Lots of treble bite, but in a good way, and the midrange is 'wide' for lack of a better adjective. Very slight hump in the middle of the midrange, but not noticeable till it's wide open, and overdriven for solos. If the Wilde doesn't work, I'll rinse & repeat with the 59/Custom/A8 formula.
BTW, I bought the Suhr Aldrich after reading some people's warnings on this forum! Funny; I thought, "Oh come on, listen to Doug". Eh, oops! Yeah, not a pickup with a lot of upper register clarity. I suppose if you have a maple bodied guitar.
 
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Yep the Perpetual Burn is my suggestion also. The Hybrid is absolutely NOT scooped and even though it on paper is not as hot as the Custom 5 to me feels much hotter in reality because of it's explosive mids.

I agree with others about the C/59, but not with this.

You must have been listening/playing a different pup. The C/59 is definitely scooped and not as hot as the Custom 5, and certainly does NOT have "explosive mids". I think you've described the Invader.
 
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