Mid Scooping

[Rotten Guitar String]

Personally, I can't stand it. It kinda feels as though my brain is being sucked out through my ears, and can also stop your guitar from cutting through the mix.

What do you think of the sound it gives?

 

[SwedeNuck]

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I like the sound to a certain extent, I'll put as much mids in my sound as I can in order to be able to hear every note clearly, but it dissentegrates my bottom end to a degree. So I find a happy medium between the two, more low mids than high mids, but still enough of the high mids to cut through like a hot knife.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Mid Scooping

Personally, I can't stand it. It kinda feels as though my brain is being sucked out through my ears, and can also stop your guitar from cutting through the mix.

What do you think of the sound it gives?

Exactly this is how I feel, too :beerchug:

Mids need to be CRANKED :headbang:

 

[Animal]

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It depends. Too much mid-scooping can get a muddy tone and too many mids sound like hornets flying into my head. I think it's all about balance and it's very dependent on the type of gear you have.

 

[Jimbojsr]

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Well said, Hames. Mind you, My fave amp in the whole wide world in an Orange, and they are known for having a caustic mid-range bark; plus, metal ain't really my thing.

 

[some_dude]

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Too few mids and you can't be heard, plus you get that stuffed head feeling.

Too much mids and the amp is too stiff and looses it's definition (amp becomes harder to control, pick & fret noise start to take over).

I try to find a ballance between having a tight and smooth slight scoop for rhythm, and a boosted mid lead sound that doesn't cause people to wince.

This varies from amp to amp though. I've played amps that sound great with the mids cranked....and others than sound like ass.

 

[Antihero]

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The guitar is pretty much a midrange instrument. You need mids to have any tone at all besides rumble&shriek.

Also as mentioned before you need mids to cut thru, otherwise in a band setting the guitar gets lost on in the bass on the low side and in the cymbols on the high.

I personally like a lot of mids and low-mids in my tone...

 

[Rich_T]

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loads of mids in my sound. but there are a bunch of scooped sounds i really like too.

 

[Forbes]

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I use a fair amount of mids, can't play with them scooped, does my head in. I do scoop out ALL the trebles though. I love thickness of my tone with all the trebles rolled back, its a similar tone to blue album weezer.

 

[Rich_T]

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Yeah, I roll off the top too, but I crank the bass and the gain.

 

[KoreanGuitarMan]

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Listening to a recording with scooped mids on the guitars seems a little hollow.

 

[SoCalSteve]

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To me, too many mids sounds like a.m. radio and lower mids sounds more like f.m. radio. I found the tone I like from my amp with the JB is bass-9, mids-3, and treble-6.

 

[Rotten Guitar String]

Re: Mid Scooping

I always have my mids higher than everything else. For me, it's usually

Bass: 11 o'clock
Mids: 3 o'clock
Treble: 2:30
Gain: 2 o'clock

With my JB through a POD, I find this tone to be very Slayer-like

 

[Mr Wolf]

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My tone is mainly mids and treble with bass not too far behind. Nice thick chunky sound

 

[YJM_Rocks]

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Bass 7 mid 4 treble 7.5 presence 7 for rythm kinda metal crunch stuff.

For lead it's the same but the mids are at 7 and the presence is boosted. My amp's treble and mids are real sensitive so u can tell the diffference between .2 when it gets into the 6-9 range on the eq.

 

[Peterku]

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I use lots of mids in my band, with the bass and treble turned back a little bit (it was Necropolo's suggestion). Alone it sounds like sh!t but in the band the sound perfectly fills in the hollow spaces but still doesn't interact with the bass guitar and the percussion. At the DT concert here some days ago Petrucci had a fairly balanced and kicking sound at the warm-up when playing alone, but he often got lost in the mix later during the gig, and turned the whole sound to rumble.