Middle position phase problem

SwedeNuck

SwedeNuck

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Hey guys, ever since I put the neck pickup in my H-207 I've been unable to fix the middle 3 switch position. both pickups work great on their own but the combinatino is out of phase (sounds like a weak strat). I got fed up with it today and decided to switch around a few wires to see if I could get any results, nada. I tried switching around the red white and black wires in various combinations to see if I could "trial and error" my way out of things but after a couple hours of fix, test, repeat, I'm running out of things to think of. Both pickups (dimarzio new 7 neck and Invader Bridge) have the same wire colour scheme thanks to the fact I had to extend the leads on the New 7 when I got it. There is one other note here, The Invader is off on the colours from the factory, the white and black wires are backwards.

I'm wondering if you guys could help me to solve this predicament. I previously tried reversing the neck pickup but to no avail, so I'm thinking a magnet flip is far from the answer. The switch itself for the middle position has a white wire going from the middle two connections to the paddle on the volume pot furthest right, which used to run to the tone pot before I disconnected it. Would this be the source of my problem?

Any help you guys can offer will be appreciated in truckloads, thanks for reading.

Bryan
 
Re: Middle position phase problem

I am in NO WAY a pro on this stuff but I can say this, screwing with the wires won't do anything to help your phase issue. What do you mean when you say you "reversed the neck pup"? Did you actually flip the magnet? That's the only solution I can think of.
 
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Re: Middle position phase problem

I changed the postition of the pu 180 degrees, therefore flipping the magnet's magnetic ends.
 
Re: Middle position phase problem

Turning the pickup around will not change it's phase.

You need to translate from the original dimarzio colors to whatever colors you made the wires by extending them. I will talk original dimarzio colors.

The red wire is your output. This should go to your switch. I assume because I do not know what an h-207 is. If you have separate volume controls then this would be to one of the volume controls.

Black and white is your series link. These two need to be connected together, soldered and taped.

The green and bare wires are ground. Connect them together to the same ground point (back of volume control?)
 
Re: Middle position phase problem

If you have a 2 pickup guitar and the middle position is out of phase, a simple reversal of hot and ground (not shield) is ALWAYS the fix. It can't possibly NOT work. You leave the coil junction alone. The only other possibility is if the coils are out of phase with eachother, because you've reversed in and out of one coil in your 4-conductor scheme. That would make the individual pickup sound thin and weak, but also make it so that no matter what you did to reverse phase (switch bridge wires, neck wires, flip magnet, etc) you would always have one coil out of phase with the other pickup. Since you've got splices and reversed wire colors in this whole mix, it's hard to tell you exactly what to do, other than go back to when you had both pups working 100% but they were out of phase with eachother, and then reverse hot and ground on one of the pups.
 
Re: Middle position phase problem

thanks for the tips guys, I won't have a chance to tamper with anything for another couple days here but I'll definently switch the hot and ground wires for one of the pu's and cross my fingers.
 
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