MINCER,,,A Quick SH-4 Wiring Question, yes, quick,,

[zozoe]

Greetings again,, I came across a pickguard with a single SH-4 H'bucker connected to a single push/pull pot that when 'up', activates only the inside, North coil, but I want to swap it so the Bridge side coil is active...
Never owned a push/pull, but the RED & WHITE are tied & attached, & the GREEN & BARE likewise, & the Black going off by itself to ground. So, in short, what would my 'new' wiring look like?
Also, what (if doable) would the pup sound like having the coils parallel? But I'm getting ahead of myself,,, But, keeping things on the simple, I'm seeking something/anything outside of the 'full-on' & single coil options. I could & would, w/proper guidance, entertain a toggle switch, or am I overthinking 'it'?
Best regards, & thnx in advance!!
Bored in So. Fla~

 

[jeremy]

if you get an on/on/on dpdt switch you can have series/split/parallel

do to what you are asking, flip the black and green wires. keep the bare where it is

 

[devastone]

FWIW, bare is a shield, it should always go to ground. From what I can make out of the picture, yes, reverse the black and green wires as Jeremy said.

 

[zozoe]

YOU GUYS ROCK!! But Jeremy, would that new on/on/on dpdt switch replace my existing push/pull, leaving me with just a Volume & the new switch, AND in the new split option, assume I can choose which coil to solo, correct? Can you link me to that switch somewhere online?
Thnx, Kenny

 

[jeremy]

you could use your volume control p/p as a phase switch to choose which coil was active in split mode!

 

[devastone]

While I'm not as cool as Jeremy, here you go - https://guitarelectronics.com/electronic-parts/switches-pickups-selectors/mini-switches/

 

[Mincer]

Sorry, I just saw this, but looks like you are in great hands.

 

[zozoe]

Yes, I am, Mincer!! Being informative, is as cool as one gets, even if it's wrong, as in the end, it all helps BIGtime~ But Jeremy, being that the P/P is just 2 positions, assume you're implying that I'd surrender the 'full on' option? And is that where the on/on/on switch comes in? AND while I've hot your ears, ANY schematic or in words, how I might put a tone in the circuit? Tho' I'm very intuitive & good at following diagrams and/or direction w/this stuff, sometimes it's hard for me do clear my head, & logically plot it out w/o a push in the right direction....
Yer' all very cool!!

 

[zozoe]

Ya know, I see ALL the options on Guitarelectronics.com...
cool~

 

[jeremy]

with a p/p pot your choices are series/split or series/parallel. a p/p pot is a on/on dpdt switch. if you use a on/on/on mini switch you can get series/split/parallel. in both these cases, you must choose which coil you want active when you split and wire it that way. you get one or the other and cannot switch between them. if you put the on/on/on switch in the guitar and wire as suggested then you could use the p/p pot as a phase switch which will let you select which coil is active when split

some of the schematics arent working so i cant link to the one im talking about. adding a tone control is very easy once you have a hole for the control. one pot, one cap, and a bit of wire

https://www.seymourduncan.com/images...H_1V_mtSSP.jpg

https://www.seymourduncan.com/images/wiring-diagrams/1H_1V_1T.jpg

 

[zozoe]

Great help, cool one!! Great stuff,,, And how about a schematic for a on/on/on AND a tone?
Thnx again~

 

[jeremy]

i didnt see one and dont have the ability to make one easily but you should be able to figure out how to add the tone from the second diagram. theres one wire from the volume control, the rest is grouding

 

[zozoe]

Yer' right,,, NEVER underestimate the admitted unknow'r

 

[zozoe]

So guys, before this slips away on me,, forget the tone for now, but as JEREMY mentioned, to have an on/on/on, then to use the PP as a coil selector, I need a SCHEMATIC for this... ANYone?
thnx in advance all!!

 

[Mincer]

The easiest, most elegant way to do that is with a Triple Shot ring. The diagram Jeremy posted can do series/split/parallel with an on/on/on 3 way.

 

[zozoe]

MINCER,, that link you shared, is a dead end. I saw JEREMY'S 1st schem., but I want to go a step further w/the on/on/on/, AND the PP wired to select the single coil, & a tone to boot. I'm stuck & ready eager to try it, & milk this SH-4 for all it's got to offer!!
Best regards, stay well, & pleeeze me out, at your convenience,,, by sunrise?
Kenny

 

[Mincer]

The link I posted shoulda been: https://www.seymourduncan.com/images/wiring-diagrams/1H_1V_mtSSP.jpg

As far as selecting what coil with a p/p pot, the best website I found for this info is here. Towards the bottom of the page, it shows how to wire the p/p pot.

 

[zozoe]

Okay, So on this schematic, could someone please write into this setup (3 way tog), & add in my push-pull volume control so that when I'm in the split mode on the 3-way, I can choose between coils.. And a tone as well.
Thnx in advance,

 

[zozoe]

HERE'S the right schematic & I'd like for someone to pencil in where I could insert my Push/Pull & Volume pot, instead of the one pictured, so I can select the North or South coil when the on/on/on is in the middle (single) position? I would assume there has to be someone who could give me proper direction with this for my SH4 project..? Thnx!!
Thnx again!!

Kenny

 

[zozoe]

But MINCER, how do i marry your 2 schematics to give me the 3 way part/single/series & the PP to choose which coil is active when the 3 way in the single position? Thnx