"Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

[marytakesadrag]

I've been eyeing a few different humbuckers including DMZ Dominion and SD Nazgul, and I know the former sounds good in C-Standard tuning in an Mahogany bodied Ibby RG. However, I'm curious, would the Dominion or any "modern metal" humbucker in general (Nazgul, Black Winters, DMZ Titan, BKP Painkiller, etc) sound okay in E-standard? Would it be too bright?

How about E-standard in a Strat?

 

[Demanic]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

Well I would think that it would be easier to dial down too much bright than to add it where it's not.

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[EDX]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

nah, more than too bright i would think too middy and possibly a tad dark, well except the black winters, they're super flat eq'ed

 

[marytakesadrag]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

Well I would think that it would be easier to dial down too much bright than to add it where it's not.

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Yep, that's true but sometimes brightness is in all of the frequencies (if that makes sense) especially if the bass is anemic so rolling off the treble won't solve anything. And if we're not just talking about the tone knob, tweaking my amp to tame or beef up the bridge pickup would negatively affect my neck & middle pickups.

I could also lower the bridge pickup but that warms/lessens the attack more than anything, and I want a decent amount of girth and bite - just like how a good humbucker should sound. I've thought out many things with many solutions being too complicated or are "on paper" kinda assumptions which IME doesn't have the best track record.

I was hoping a few people had prior experience that I can draw a better hypothesis from. I'm sure not a lot of people has tried it but thought I test my luck

Anyway thanks for the input

 

[marytakesadrag]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

nah, more than too bright i would think too middy and possibly a tad dark, well except the black winters, they're super flat eq'ed

Too middy, as in the Dominion? Yah, it is a mid-monster. So the mids become more prominent in E-standard... Hmm... that does make sense. Thanks, I never thought about that.

And what do you mean too dark? I always figured E-standard being brighter.

 

[EDX]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

many modern metal pickups have the very high end top shaved off on their top, this helps with the modern metal production as they don't need to boost mids and shave more high and low end, the note will be higher but not necessary brighter due to lack of some high harmonics

 

[dave74]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

I find that the string-type (brand/model) and tension makes much more difference than what the tuning is when it comes to choosing pickups.
That's one reason why some will find a specific pickup to be too bright and sterile, and then the next guy comes on and says "I don't find it to be bright and sterile at all". lol

If you use light string tension and are going for a tight aggressive attack, then a loose and juicy pup probably isn't the answer, whereas the same model might perfectly compliment a heavy string-tension at the same tuning.

 

[marytakesadrag]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

I find that the string-type (brand/model) and tension makes much more difference than what the tuning is when it comes to choosing pickups.
That's one reason why some will find a specific pickup to be too bright and sterile, and then the next guy comes on and says "I don't find it to be bright and sterile at all". lol

If you use light string tension and are going for a tight aggressive attack, then a loose and juicy pup probably isn't the answer, whereas the same model might perfectly compliment a heavy string-tension at the same tuning.

Actually, that makes perfect sense. Not necessarily the tuning... (because technically E-standard notes are in C-standard) but the string gauge and more importantly, tension.

I think I should be fine. I also remembered, I could always switch to a thicker pick if needed too

many modern metal pickups have the very high end top shaved off on their top, this helps with the modern metal production as they don't need to boost mids and shave more high and low end, the note will be higher but not necessary brighter due to lack of some high harmonics

Ah makes sense! Thanks for the input. And by the way....... DEATHSCYTHE! \m/

 

[Lampy H]

Re: "Modern Metal" humbucker in E-standard? Too bright?

I find that the string-type (brand/model) and tension makes much more difference than what the tuning is when it comes to choosing pickups.
That's one reason why some will find a specific pickup to be too bright and sterile, and then the next guy comes on and says "I don't find it to be bright and sterile at all". lol

If you use light string tension and are going for a tight aggressive attack, then a loose and juicy pup probably isn't the answer, whereas the same model might perfectly compliment a heavy string-tension at the same tuning.

One of the best pieces of advice on the whole forum.