Mojotone vs. Philadelphia Luthier Tools magnets

I find the difference between A2 , A4 & A5 to be subtle at best

Even between ceramic and alnico is very slight

In a mix all of the differences disappear

Or an adjustment to the tone control will do that
i very much disagree. i hear a quite noticeable difference between say a2 and a5. even uoa5 and a2. does the difference matter to an audience? of course not, but its enough for me to swap back to what i like.
 
Although it isn't a night and day difference between an A2 and A5 JB to me.
 
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We need not look any further than the Custom, the Custom 5, and the Custom Custom to understand how much a simple magnet change can influence a pickup's overall sound and feel...
Right, and it just so happens that the Custom wind can change wildly depending on magnet. I didn't find that with the JB, though, but I am not the target audience for a JB.
 
The only supplier I would stay away from is Stewmac. They have a great selection, but their prices only make sense if you're buying 100 of something. They also screw you by overcharging for shipping.
I've been taking advantage of the promo they do where they throw in StewMAX for free if you buy enough stuff (which I'd be getting anyway) and then I have free shipping for one I need to buy one screw or something. LOL
 
I've been taking advantage of the promo they do where they throw in StewMAX for free if you buy enough stuff (which I'd be getting anyway) and then I have free shipping for one I need to buy one screw or something. LOL
That's actually a solid plan! Probably saves way more over the course of a year than any single "sale".
 
I would shoot a message to both vendors and just ask about their QC for magnetized bars...do they buy them pre-charged or do they magnetize them in-house? Do they have a way to double-check the gauss/charge before shipping? Hint: I know Mojotone does.

As for magnet "quality" from a materials/construction standpoint, I genuinely don't think one is going to be better than the other.
I emailed Philadelphia Luthier Tools & Supply a few weeks ago. They never replied, but today I did find a mass promo email from them in my spam folder. Seems they got my email, didn't reply, but then added me to their mass emailing list.

I did hear right back from Mojotone. I didn't want to hound them with more questions just yet, though, since I was leaning towards Philly and would likely order from them as long as nobody in this thread scared me away from them.

I also contacted Montreux in Japan (where I live) about their sourcing, and they replied relatively quickly with "Manufacturing management is often done in the United States, and raw materials are often in China." (translated)

So at this point, I've got a bunch of magnets in my Philly cart. I guess I'll go ahead and pull the trigger despite my reservations. Thanks everyone for the input.
 
Tip - magnets usually arrive in a labeled bag, but you should also label your magnets with sharpie and/or masking tape. That way there’s no question which is which if a magnet ends up not making it back in the labeled bag.
 
thats good advice. alnico all looks the same. i use different colored sharpe like duncan. blue is a2, black a5, green a4, orange a3. not sure what duncan uses for a3 and a4, but the a2/a5 is the same
 
I'd wager good money there is a non-zero chance Philly and Mojo get their magnets from the same supplier

"why pricing different, then?" who knows, varying bulk discounts, different profit margin targets, etc.
 
The only time I got a response from Philly is when I complained about some magnets

I ended up keeping them as it was a minor cosmetic issue
 
I find the difference between A2 , A4 & A5 to be subtle at best

Even between ceramic and alnico is very slight

In a mix all of the differences disappear

Or an adjustment to the tone control will do that
Depends on the player, gear, settings and situation...

What I've seen and heard of your videos seemed to rely mostly on clean chords, played very softly. No objections at all from me against that: it's your style. But I see why it doesn't make some differences obvious. :-)

PARENTHESIS - A while back, someone had posted on YT a comparison involving a bunch of bar magnets in a same pickup, used to play the same clean tune in the same Kemper with the same settings. Differences were rather clear, even between bars of a supposedly "same" alloy but of different foundries and eras. The video can't be seen no more since the author made it private but I think that I've kept frequency analysis charts of the sound track somewhere in my way too crowded archives. More later about that, maybe...

EDIT - Below is an excerpt of the charts aforementioned. Short bar magnet coming from a 1962 Gibson PU (and supposedly made of A5) vs the magnet of a Duncan Antiquity in the SAME vintage Patent Sticker Gibson humbucker used to play the SAME thing... The guy had a VERY consistent playing and was always using the same Kemper profile with the same settings so the only difference was definitively the magnet. I think to have stored the related sound files in some hard disk.

FWIW (a testimonial on something matching our own findings here about magnets: they can almost change a pickup in another one, especially when vintage magnets are involved).

Magnets62ShortVsAntA2SamePatStick.webp
 
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