KLINKDETROIT
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More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
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the guy who invented fire
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
The V30 has more of an upper mid thing going on while the Greenbacks have more true "middle" mids...but the Greenbacks are also a bit spongy sounding, almost muddy even...nice texture and to be honest I really like Greenbacks but they are no for everybody.
The V30 has more of an upper mid thing going on while the Greenbacks have more true "middle" mids...but the Greenbacks are also a bit spongy sounding, almost muddy even...nice texture and to be honest I really like Greenbacks but they are no for everybody.
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Lewguitar
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
I think the Greenback has more classic Celestion crunchy chunk to the mids...but the Vintage 30 is clearer and has a better low end in an open cab combo amp.
Better still (more low end, more mids, smoother tone) is the G12H30.
Lew
I think the Greenback has more classic Celestion crunchy chunk to the mids...but the Vintage 30 is clearer and has a better low end in an open cab combo amp.
Better still (more low end, more mids, smoother tone) is the G12H30.
Lew
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
I would be mixing it with a v30 on top and 1 texas heat on the bottom and 1 g12h30 heritage on the bottom in a 4x12. I had an anniversary g12h30 in there but found the lows to be a little too much even for me. Who needs bass players anyway??? LOL
I would be mixing it with a v30 on top and 1 texas heat on the bottom and 1 g12h30 heritage on the bottom in a 4x12. I had an anniversary g12h30 in there but found the lows to be a little too much even for me. Who needs bass players anyway??? LOL
James Rock
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
isnt the V30 meant to be harsh
isnt the V30 meant to be harsh
Kommerzbassist
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
Woho hell no! It's quite smooth actually. Too smooth for some.James Rock said:
kevlar3000
Bullet Proof Toneologist
Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
In the upper mid treble response, yes. Not a speaker I enjoy being around at any type of club volume. It has a focus on one specific frequency and will stay there til you ears fall off. For the classic rock tone, the Greenback is really the one. A warmer mid voice, a lot more breakup. Not really for the modern rock sound, but great for getting old school on it.
James Rock said:
In the upper mid treble response, yes. Not a speaker I enjoy being around at any type of club volume. It has a focus on one specific frequency and will stay there til you ears fall off. For the classic rock tone, the Greenback is really the one. A warmer mid voice, a lot more breakup. Not really for the modern rock sound, but great for getting old school on it.
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
Does the greenback have more mids or similar mids than the Eminence governor? I understand the differences now between the v30s upper mids compared to the greenbacks lower mids
Does the greenback have more mids or similar mids than the Eminence governor? I understand the differences now between the v30s upper mids compared to the greenbacks lower mids
JeffB
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
Respectfully disagree
Compared to 75s, perhaps...
V30 is the JB of Celestions. Harsh upper mid spike. Cuts though great but for many (myself included) is annoying as all get-out.
Greenbacks and the H30s are tough to beat, and IMO are the key speaker for classic Marshall tone of the 60s/70s. Then the 800s/75s hit....the "LA" sound..not my thing.
Kommerzbassist said:
Respectfully disagree
Compared to 75s, perhaps...
V30 is the JB of Celestions. Harsh upper mid spike. Cuts though great but for many (myself included) is annoying as all get-out.
Greenbacks and the H30s are tough to beat, and IMO are the key speaker for classic Marshall tone of the 60s/70s. Then the 800s/75s hit....the "LA" sound..not my thing.
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
I have both the heritage and anniversary in the same cab with a texas heat and v30 it seems too bassy so I wanted to add mids to it. I just tried the governor and it works better but almost brightens the cab up too much in the highs? I always thought the governor had less highs than the g12h30 anniversary?. I may check into a greenback if the highs are less annoying than the v30 or governor
I have both the heritage and anniversary in the same cab with a texas heat and v30 it seems too bassy so I wanted to add mids to it. I just tried the governor and it works better but almost brightens the cab up too much in the highs? I always thought the governor had less highs than the g12h30 anniversary?. I may check into a greenback if the highs are less annoying than the v30 or governor
Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
There's an idea. What if we just use speaker-pickup analogy to describe the characteristic of a speaker.
In regard to the question, I think that I use a 4x12 cab with 16 Ohm V30 in it (DSL40 is the amp), but I am not sure. Nevertheless, it sure sounds a lot like a V30; it matches the sound sample on the website. What the posters here say about the harsh upper mid freq and "staying" on one specific frequency seems to be true. The mid on it is quite spikey to my ears.
JeffB said:Respectfully disagree
Compared to 75s, perhaps...
V30 is the JB of Celestions. Harsh upper mid spike. Cuts though great but for many (myself included) is annoying as all get-out.
Greenbacks and the H30s are tough to beat, and IMO are the key speaker for classic Marshall tone of the 60s/70s. Then the 800s/75s hit....the "LA" sound..not my thing.
There's an idea. What if we just use speaker-pickup analogy to describe the characteristic of a speaker.
In regard to the question, I think that I use a 4x12 cab with 16 Ohm V30 in it (DSL40 is the amp), but I am not sure. Nevertheless, it sure sounds a lot like a V30; it matches the sound sample on the website. What the posters here say about the harsh upper mid freq and "staying" on one specific frequency seems to be true. The mid on it is quite spikey to my ears.
L
Lewguitar
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
The Vintage 30 usually sounds alot deeper, warmer and thicker in a sealed 4 x 12 cabinet than it does in an open back combo amp.
The Greenback sounds better in a sealed 4 x 12 cab too...and it sounds like it's lacking in bass in an open back combo amp.
That said, the Greenback still sounds better than most older Utah, CTS, Eminence, etc. speakers.
Lew
The Vintage 30 usually sounds alot deeper, warmer and thicker in a sealed 4 x 12 cabinet than it does in an open back combo amp.
The Greenback sounds better in a sealed 4 x 12 cab too...and it sounds like it's lacking in bass in an open back combo amp.
That said, the Greenback still sounds better than most older Utah, CTS, Eminence, etc. speakers.
Lew
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
For tight...just strangle it some more....
For tight...just strangle it some more....
marvar
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
No, not at all IMO, remember, the GB is rated at 97 or 98 db, the V30 is rated at 100db, the V30 will be noticeably louder next to a GB. The GB's LF specs at 75hz, and the V30/G12H30 each go down to 70hz, adding more lows. You might want to think about a V30/G12H30 combination, the two speakers working together kinda cover each others weakness. And they have much more low end definition.taphappy said:
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
I had 1 g12h30 and 1 v30 on top of the 4x12 and a texas under the g12h30 and a g12h30 heritage (55hz) under the v30. With a Marshall it sounds killer like that but with my dual rectifier it has too much lows and not enough mids. I think 2 g12h30s are 1 too many in this cab. That is why I want more mids. I may check the greenback out. My old bands 2nd guitarist had a cab with greenbacks with a Marshall and or his 5150 and I listened to his tone and it smoked my old tone of 5150/ Marshall cab with g12t75 speakers. We played everything from Dream theatre to NIN to White Zombie and it seemed plenty heavy.
I had 1 g12h30 and 1 v30 on top of the 4x12 and a texas under the g12h30 and a g12h30 heritage (55hz) under the v30. With a Marshall it sounds killer like that but with my dual rectifier it has too much lows and not enough mids. I think 2 g12h30s are 1 too many in this cab. That is why I want more mids. I may check the greenback out. My old bands 2nd guitarist had a cab with greenbacks with a Marshall and or his 5150 and I listened to his tone and it smoked my old tone of 5150/ Marshall cab with g12t75 speakers. We played everything from Dream theatre to NIN to White Zombie and it seemed plenty heavy.
James Rock
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Re: More mids V30 vs GREENBACK?
Thats the kinda info people need to know because of course the sound different like who would but an alnico blue in a mesa cab but there the best for vox's
