More transparent noise gate

[Sleeping Martyr]

Right now I have a boss NS-2 and its good but it just sucks out a little TOO much sustain (I have it on the lowest setting) AND it interferes with my delay sustain (should a delay be before or after the noise gate??) So is there a noise gate which will do the same job but be far less present in the effects chain and let my non high output guitars sustain longer??

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: More transparent noise gate

The ISP Decimator is more transparent, but I didn't find it to cut out quite the amount of noise the NS-2 did. I wouldn't recommend noise gates in the FX Loop (they aren't near as effective from my experience), you really need them in front of the preamp to do their best (and after any other pedals in the chain).

 

[Sleeping Martyr]

Re: More transparent noise gate

Oh no my NS-2 isn't in the effects loop. its the last pedal on my pedal board before the amp

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: More transparent noise gate

Oh no my NS-2 isn't in the effects loop. its the last pedal on my pedal board before the amp

Ah, sorry... I don't know why I thought FX Loop when you said effects chain :smack:

The ISP is the best solution that's out there currently for what you're looking for

 

[ParameterMan]

Re: More transparent noise gate

The best setup is to sense pre-distortion and gate post-distortion. The ISP ProRack works this way. Most affordable studio gates should have a sidechain as well. The advantage of the ISP is that it has a highcut filter/gate that rides just above the guitar sound and kills buzz while allowing sustain. So when it closes, it starts in the high-end and sweeps down as the note dies out, before chopping off completely. Behringer makes/used to make a noise destroyer with the same technology. It got pretty good reviews.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: More transparent noise gate

Right now I have a boss NS-2 and its good but it just sucks out a little TOO much sustain (I have it on the lowest setting) AND it interferes with my delay sustain (should a delay be before or after the noise gate??) So is there a noise gate which will do the same job but be far less present in the effects chain and let my non high output guitars sustain longer??

I've read a crap load of good stuff about ISP but was really not impressed with last time at GC, but I think a huge part of it was that it was plugged in right after all the pedals on the stand ... so I dont know, but it did not kill enough of noise and then at 12 o'clock it just killed everything, IDK. Did you try the NS-2 with its loop feature? you can put EFX loop out into NS-2 loop and clean up before pre-amp and after. I actually wanna go one day try NS-2/ISP box/Hush with TS9 into a 800/900 marshall cause that's closest immulation of my rig the pathetic GC floor can accomadate.

 

[ParameterMan]

Re: More transparent noise gate

Post distortion triggering doesn't work all that well because the distortion amplifies the bad noise to about the same level as the good noise. So then the gate will be pretty much all or none.

 

[dani]

Re: More transparent noise gate

the delay is suppose to be after the ns-2. noisy pedals such as compressors, dirt pedals and eq should be placed in the loop of the ns-2. try that and see what happens.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: More transparent noise gate

Put your gate BEFORE the delay. Try setting your decay more to the "max".

 

[James Rock]

Re: More transparent noise gate

As far as I can think wouldn't it be best for the noise gate to go before anything that compresses the signal (bringing noise levels closer to the audio levels).

 

[wickenspoet]

Re: More transparent noise gate

I'm just curious, do you use the built in loop of the NS-2 or do you just run the signal through the input and output, without using the pedal's loop jacks?

I've heard people use it both ways... and I liked the method that uses the NS-2's send and return loop best.

EDIT: Oops, Dr. Mavashi just said that.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: More transparent noise gate

I dont put any pedals through the loop, never worked for me. I do have the "send" goign to my tuner though (but not back into the return) that way I can do silent tuning (put the pedal on mute) AND -beleive it or not- doesnt take away any tone!

 

[pogisnake]

Re: More transparent noise gate

this is what i do...and i have very low noise....

effects to ns-2 then delay (no effect loops)...

plus set the ns-2 like this, first knob maxed, second knob zero...