Quencho092
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i guess the thread on which gear gets the most out of you inspired this one. What gear is most unforving/forgiving towards mistakes?
most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
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JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
Strats are pretty transparent. If you suck, a Strat will call you out everytime
That said, I think they're much more flexible, in regards to the tones you can squeeze from them.
Strats are pretty transparent. If you suck, a Strat will call you out everytime
That said, I think they're much more flexible, in regards to the tones you can squeeze from them.
Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
Shredder axes and gibsons are the most forgiving guitars I've come across. Whenever I play a nice gibson, I'm amazed at how fluent my playing becomes.
As for unforgiving, two words:
Fender Telecaster. Not for the weak of resolve.
As for amps, it seems the higher gain you go, the less you have to work. Of course the tradeoff is lack of articulation...
Shredder axes and gibsons are the most forgiving guitars I've come across. Whenever I play a nice gibson, I'm amazed at how fluent my playing becomes.
As for unforgiving, two words:
Fender Telecaster. Not for the weak of resolve.
As for amps, it seems the higher gain you go, the less you have to work. Of course the tradeoff is lack of articulation...
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Old Ghost
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Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
+1! :burnout:
JB_From_Hell said:Strats are pretty transparent. If you suck, a Strat will call you out everytime
That said, I think they're much more flexible, in regards to the tones you can squeeze from them.
+1! :burnout:
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
Tele's tend to be pretty unforgiving, and even Strats to a point. VHT amps and Fender amps will also tell on you...HiWatts too...high gain Marshalls, Mesa, these things tend to cover up sloppy playing...espically when used with Buckers
Tele's tend to be pretty unforgiving, and even Strats to a point. VHT amps and Fender amps will also tell on you...HiWatts too...high gain Marshalls, Mesa, these things tend to cover up sloppy playing...espically when used with Buckers
Quencho092
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Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
my other guitarrist is pretty darn good, and now that we've been working the classic jazz chops and runs he's gotten alot better, but i let him throw a few licks down on my strat and we all had a good laugh.
I tried his epiphone and ripped thanks my experiences with my strat always calling out my mistakes. I wouldnt have it any other way though, nothing tops playing great on a good strat.
my other guitarrist is pretty darn good, and now that we've been working the classic jazz chops and runs he's gotten alot better, but i let him throw a few licks down on my strat and we all had a good laugh.
I tried his epiphone and ripped thanks my experiences with my strat always calling out my mistakes. I wouldnt have it any other way though, nothing tops playing great on a good strat.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
I voted Shredder superstrat/Highgain. Definitely the easiest to sound good on.
I've always though that the reason the most skilled players always gravitate toward the strat is because they're the best guitars at laying your soul out on your sleeve. They leave nothing to hide, and show the biggest difference between different nuances of player's style. It's no coincidence that Hendrix, Beck, Yngwie, Clapton, and SRV gravitated toward that instrument.
I voted Shredder superstrat/Highgain. Definitely the easiest to sound good on.
I've always though that the reason the most skilled players always gravitate toward the strat is because they're the best guitars at laying your soul out on your sleeve. They leave nothing to hide, and show the biggest difference between different nuances of player's style. It's no coincidence that Hendrix, Beck, Yngwie, Clapton, and SRV gravitated toward that instrument.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
Single coils and clean amps will show flaws. Tele and Strats were made for players who want everything to shine through. I agree with GJ, there's no wonder why there are so many memorable guitar legends that have used them. I think they're a lot more fun to play, but that's just me.
Single coils and clean amps will show flaws. Tele and Strats were made for players who want everything to shine through. I agree with GJ, there's no wonder why there are so many memorable guitar legends that have used them. I think they're a lot more fun to play, but that's just me.
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
I decide stuff like this on a peice-by-peice basis. I find that to my hands Gibsons with thick necks and some PRS guitars have very little margin for error, and old-style, loud tube amps like Bassmans and Plexis are BRUTALLY honest.
I LOVE Strats so while I lot of players say their a little tough to work with I'm completely used to it plus I know all the little idiosyncracies of that model. So as a result it ain't a problem.
I hate tube amps that have a real stiff, honky feel. The "pushed" mode on channel 1 of my Rectoverb is like this so I don't use it but the Vintage mode on the gain channel is SWEEEET. All liquidy and smooth, thats what I like!
I decide stuff like this on a peice-by-peice basis. I find that to my hands Gibsons with thick necks and some PRS guitars have very little margin for error, and old-style, loud tube amps like Bassmans and Plexis are BRUTALLY honest.
I LOVE Strats so while I lot of players say their a little tough to work with I'm completely used to it plus I know all the little idiosyncracies of that model. So as a result it ain't a problem.
I hate tube amps that have a real stiff, honky feel. The "pushed" mode on channel 1 of my Rectoverb is like this so I don't use it but the Vintage mode on the gain channel is SWEEEET. All liquidy and smooth, thats what I like!
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
I don't get why people say that high gain is more forgiving...it brings out more mistakes for me. It makes it alot harder to keep the other strings silent, and to make quick runs and sweeps sound clear and articulate. That's enough of a challenge for me.
I don't get why people say that high gain is more forgiving...it brings out more mistakes for me. It makes it alot harder to keep the other strings silent, and to make quick runs and sweeps sound clear and articulate. That's enough of a challenge for me.
TattooedCarrot
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Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
I think it has more to do with the amp than guitar, pickups too. Hi-gain stuff is always easier to hide behind, I think 6L6 is also kinder than EL34.
I think it has more to do with the amp than guitar, pickups too. Hi-gain stuff is always easier to hide behind, I think 6L6 is also kinder than EL34.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
I'm going to go with a hollow, or semi-hollow plugged into anything for least forgiving. You have to keep the strings quiet, you have to dig in to get it to sing. Everything most guys love about strats I love about hollow bodies. Most forgiving is anything with not clear high gain.
As far as amps go, the better the amp, the more it's going to tell on you. I went from playing my fender bullet in my dorm room, to a twin reverb on the weekend, all I could ever think was, "wow, I suck" then to the Z which sent me back to the woodshed for sure, inspiring, yet at the same time disappointing due to lack of chops.
Luke
I'm going to go with a hollow, or semi-hollow plugged into anything for least forgiving. You have to keep the strings quiet, you have to dig in to get it to sing. Everything most guys love about strats I love about hollow bodies. Most forgiving is anything with not clear high gain.
As far as amps go, the better the amp, the more it's going to tell on you. I went from playing my fender bullet in my dorm room, to a twin reverb on the weekend, all I could ever think was, "wow, I suck" then to the Z which sent me back to the woodshed for sure, inspiring, yet at the same time disappointing due to lack of chops.
Luke
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Re: most forgiving/unforgiving equipment
Again, I find the opposote to be true for me, personally.
I agree, screwing up with a high or even medium-gain riff sounds a lot worse because the distortion amplifies all the mistakes, bad intonation, etc. I'm a huge stickler for being in tune and STAYING there because of that.
TattooedCarrot said:
Again, I find the opposote to be true for me, personally.
DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
I agree, screwing up with a high or even medium-gain riff sounds a lot worse because the distortion amplifies all the mistakes, bad intonation, etc. I'm a huge stickler for being in tune and STAYING there because of that.
