Most versatile pickups for jpage wiring in an LP

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sudzinsky

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Hey guys, I've got an Epi LP that currently has jpage wiring setup with the whole lotta humbucker gold cover set. It has gold hardware which it came with and I'm not a fan of gold so I'm switching it all out and figured this would be a good time to explore different pickup combinations.

I love all the options I can get from the JPage wiring, and WLH set is pretty nice but I would like to find a combination that is a little more on both ends of the spectrum if that makes sense. Both pups in the WLH set sound very close to each other so I guess what I am looking for is a little more extended range from both ends that will still work well tonally with the options that the JPage wiring gives.
I play everything from classic rock, to 80's and modern metal, to 90's alternative and grunge.

I was thinking about a 59 bridge and an A2P neck, or maybe a JB bridge and 59 neck (not a fan of the Jazz).
What would you guys suggest?
 
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Not sure how much more versatile you can get outside of the WLH set with JPage wiring when you are talking about going with the 59 or A2P pickups. Sure, the JB might not be a bad bridge pickup for a little higher output but... going to the 59 or the A2P is a downgrade from the WLH.

Sentient neck with Screamin Demon bridge would be a consideration but still... I would stick with the WLH if I was you.
 
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If you want a big difference in EQ, a '59B and A2PN will give you that; bright, scooped bridge and a warm, fat neck. Pretty good choice.

For a hotter bridge, I'd go with a Custom 5 (SH-14) or Custom (SH-5) as both are pretty reliable in warm woods (JB's occasionally get squirrely in them).
 
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The 59/Custom hybrid is worth considering for bridge pickup. You'd get a stronger split tone but could still keep one foot in PAF territory when you use it in series, and have the benefit of a bit more chunk without entirely giving up the vintage dynamic.

I'm not sure that simply going for a wider disparity between neck & bridge is the ticket for covering a variety of styles from different eras. It seems to me that in the neck position brighter/tighter might serve you better than a pickup that's warm by nature. You can always roll the tone back a little, but if you want more slice or sparkle from one that's round to begin with, you'd need to tweak it downstream. I think a Sentient (or even a Demon) at the neck could do classic rock pretty nicely, while a 59n or A2P might be a bit loose in the low end to handle modern neck tones well, especially metal. Just my first thoughts, FWIW.
 
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HAving goofed with a couple of PAge wired guitars, I personally find a LOT of the setting are not that different/interesting/usable for anything really….

BUT!!!!! You raise a REALLY good question. What COULD that wiring do with something besides a pair of PAF's….


The Just using a Custom/59 in the bridge really makes me think about how that hot coil will sound split, phased in combo with others, etc….


I think this deserves some DEEP thought guys.
 
Re: Most versatile pickups for jpage wiring in an LP

sudzinsky said:
Hey guys, I've got an Epi LP that currently has jpage wiring setup with the whole lotta humbucker gold cover set. It has gold hardware which it came with and I'm not a fan of gold so I'm switching it all out and figured this would be a good time to explore different pickup combinations.

I love all the options I can get from the JPage wiring, and WLH set is pretty nice but I would like to find a combination that is a little more on both ends of the spectrum if that makes sense. Both pups in the WLH set sound very close to each other so I guess what I am looking for is a little more extended range from both ends that will still work well tonally with the options that the JPage wiring gives.
I play everything from classic rock, to 80's and modern metal, to 90's alternative and grunge.

I was thinking about a 59 bridge and an A2P neck, or maybe a JB bridge and 59 neck (not a fan of the Jazz).
What would you guys suggest?
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If I may, my take will be a 4-C Seth Lover set, with an A3-modded neck p'up and an UOA5-modded bridge p'up.

HTH,
 
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I have my own personal variation of JP wiring on my Ibby Jetking, using AII Pros. (Not Slash, just regular), and it sounds killer. The difference in the neck and bridge positions is enough for nicely different tones. Just my 2-cents worth.
 
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SnakeAces said:
Not sure how much more versatile you can get outside of the WLH set with JPage wiring when you are talking about going with the 59 or A2P pickups. Sure, the JB might not be a bad bridge pickup for a little higher output but... going to the 59 or the A2P is a downgrade from the WLH.

Sentient neck with Screamin Demon bridge would be a consideration but still... I would stick with the WLH if I was you.
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The thing about the WLH set is that the bridge and neck sound very very similar to each other. Don't get me wrong, they're great pups and very versatile for sure. I'm only changing them out because I'm switching out all the gold hardware for silver hardware and the pups that I put in there will be zebra's. Figured it's a good time to try something different is all and looking for a bit more range between the two pups.
 
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eclecticsynergy said:
The 59/Custom hybrid is worth considering for bridge pickup. You'd get a stronger split tone but could still keep one foot in PAF territory when you use it in series, and have the benefit of a bit more chunk without entirely giving up the vintage dynamic.

I'm not sure that simply going for a wider disparity between neck & bridge is the ticket for covering a variety of styles from different eras. It seems to me that in the neck position brighter/tighter might serve you better than a pickup that's warm by nature. You can always roll the tone back a little, but if you want more slice or sparkle from one that's round to begin with, you'd need to tweak it downstream. I think a Sentient (or even a Demon) at the neck could do classic rock pretty nicely, while a 59n or A2P might be a bit loose in the low end to handle modern neck tones well, especially metal. Just my first thoughts, FWIW.
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Hmm, that's a good point..I've had harder time figuring out what neck pups to consider over the bridge. I'll look into those, thanks for the suggestions.
 
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Aceman said:
HAving goofed with a couple of PAge wired guitars, I personally find a LOT of the setting are not that different/interesting/usable for anything really….

BUT!!!!! You raise a REALLY good question. What COULD that wiring do with something besides a pair of PAF's….


The Just using a Custom/59 in the bridge really makes me think about how that hot coil will sound split, phased in combo with others, etc….


I think this deserves some DEEP thought guys.
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I definitely goofed a few attempts before I got it right. And I agree, a lot of the combinations are very small differences and there's about a handful that I use regularly. It became more of the challenge to get the wiring right and see what all the different options could do and sound like. I definitely wouldn't do it again on any of my guitars but it definitely helped me learn a lot about the different wiring schemes that an LP can have.
 
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ArtieToo said:
I have my own personal variation of JP wiring on my Ibby Jetking, using AII Pros. (Not Slash, just regular), and it sounds killer. The difference in the neck and bridge positions is enough for nicely different tones. Just my 2-cents worth.
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I was thinking about that or the Slash set and thought that I would get a bit more chunk at the bridge from a 59 or like eclecticsynergy suggested, the 59/custom.
 
Re: Most versatile pickups for jpage wiring in an LP

sudzinsky said:
I was thinking about that or the Slash set and thought that I would get a bit more chunk at the bridge from a 59 or like eclecticsynergy suggested, the 59/custom.
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Slash set is pair of single wire pups. JP wiring works only with 4wire humbuckers
 
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sudzinsky said:
The thing about the WLH set is that the bridge and neck sound very very similar to each other. Don't get me wrong, they're great pups and very versatile for sure. I'm only changing them out because I'm switching out all the gold hardware for silver hardware and the pups that I put in there will be zebra's. Figured it's a good time to try something different is all and looking for a bit more range between the two pups.
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I have a WLH set and I do not see what you're saying at all. I find the neck and bridge to be quite different from each other. The neck is thick and creamy and doesn't have "bite" but is very smooth. The bridge is aggressive and nasty with a whole lotta bite; it's got lots of sizzle and not very bassy when compared to the WLH neck. I am not sure what set or even guitar you are playing on but these pickups do not sound alike at all.
 
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You've already got top class pickups, save your money and put it towards a Gibson and a good amp, and you will go to the next level.
 
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SnakeAces said:
I have a WLH set and I do not see what you're saying at all. I find the neck and bridge to be quite different from each other. The neck is thick and creamy and doesn't have "bite" but is very smooth. The bridge is aggressive and nasty with a whole lotta bite; it's got lots of sizzle and not very bassy when compared to the WLH neck. I am not sure what set or even guitar you are playing on but these pickups do not sound alike at all.
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You should swap them around and see what you think then....
 
Re: Most versatile pickups for jpage wiring in an LP

beaubrummels said:
Snake isn't the one looking to make them sound further different than they already are.
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Exactly, I love them the way they were designed and intended to be used. They are perfect imo so there is no need to swap them.
 
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