Dave Simpson
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Re: motor city pickups?
No worries bro. Best of luck to you and your business.:smokin:
No worries bro. Best of luck to you and your business.:smokin:
motor city pickups?
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MonkeyKnifeFighter
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Re: motor city pickups?
MCPs totally suck! Worst rip-offs EVER!!!!!
So uh, can I get a freebie?
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best of luck to you and your company.
~MkF!
MCPs totally suck! Worst rip-offs EVER!!!!!
So uh, can I get a freebie?
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best of luck to you and your company.
~MkF!
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: motor city pickups?
Wow! You guys are bunch of haters. LOL. I do not work for M.C.P. but have faith in the pickups. I have been helping in the R&D of most of the models. I made a bunch of soundclips for M.C.P. and learned alot from Wade as well as gave my honest critique. I feel that these pickups are what I have been looking for. You may feel that way too if you ever played them. I see a few people here acting as if they know something about these pickups and THEY DON'T! M.C.P. is a newer company to those outside Detroit and the rest of you will soon find out why Detroit is the home of rock n roll! LOL. Any thread hijacking comments are a joke as everyone on here gives advice and asks for advice to get a better tone. Duncans are great pickups and that is why I signed up for the forum here. I have however tried a bunch of them as well as bareknuckle and I just sold my Duncans and warpigs if that gives you any idea of what pickups I prefer. The warpigs were great but a little too round for me and the mass produced Duncans are compressed and thin compared to M.C.P. Sorry, that is just my oppinion. I think it is a good thing to discuss topics here but I am a little turned off by the negativity that comes from people with a little too much time on thier hands. The problem I see with many on these forums is that the people who live for them should spend more time on the guitar and less time thinking about it. Tone ultimately comes from your fingers and while I am a believer in good equipment, it is really the player that you hear.
Wow! You guys are bunch of haters. LOL. I do not work for M.C.P. but have faith in the pickups. I have been helping in the R&D of most of the models. I made a bunch of soundclips for M.C.P. and learned alot from Wade as well as gave my honest critique. I feel that these pickups are what I have been looking for. You may feel that way too if you ever played them. I see a few people here acting as if they know something about these pickups and THEY DON'T! M.C.P. is a newer company to those outside Detroit and the rest of you will soon find out why Detroit is the home of rock n roll! LOL. Any thread hijacking comments are a joke as everyone on here gives advice and asks for advice to get a better tone. Duncans are great pickups and that is why I signed up for the forum here. I have however tried a bunch of them as well as bareknuckle and I just sold my Duncans and warpigs if that gives you any idea of what pickups I prefer. The warpigs were great but a little too round for me and the mass produced Duncans are compressed and thin compared to M.C.P. Sorry, that is just my oppinion. I think it is a good thing to discuss topics here but I am a little turned off by the negativity that comes from people with a little too much time on thier hands. The problem I see with many on these forums is that the people who live for them should spend more time on the guitar and less time thinking about it. Tone ultimately comes from your fingers and while I am a believer in good equipment, it is really the player that you hear.
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ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: motor city pickups?
So does everyone from Detroit have bad spelling and grammar?
So does everyone from Detroit have bad spelling and grammar?
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: motor city pickups?
yES AND THEY WILL KICK YOUR PROPER ASS!
Profanity - voilation of terms - first warning
yES AND THEY WILL KICK YOUR PROPER ASS!
Profanity - voilation of terms - first warning
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: motor city pickups?
Remember, one of the rules on this forum is that you can bash Seymour Duncan. You can even call our pickups "mass produced" and "compressed and thin." What you can't do is bash the competition.
Now, if Klink is really expressing his opinion about Seymour Duncan, that's fine. If he's a shill working for this pickup company (which, I admit, I've never heard of), he's going to get flamed -- and deservedly so.
But remember not to use threats or profanity. If you violate the terms of service you agreed to when you signed up, you're going to get a warning.
Remember, one of the rules on this forum is that you can bash Seymour Duncan. You can even call our pickups "mass produced" and "compressed and thin." What you can't do is bash the competition.
Now, if Klink is really expressing his opinion about Seymour Duncan, that's fine. If he's a shill working for this pickup company (which, I admit, I've never heard of), he's going to get flamed -- and deservedly so.
But remember not to use threats or profanity. If you violate the terms of service you agreed to when you signed up, you're going to get a warning.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: motor city pickups?
You´re fully entitled to your opinion, but you have to admit that comparing a "mass produced" pickup to a handwound one is very much akin to comparing a Bronze Series BC Rich or a Squire strat to a handmade USA Rich of Custom Shop Fender. A comparison to comparable handwound Duncans would have been more appropriate. IMO
That said, I had heard of MCP Pickups before, specifically in your posts KD, and found them interesting despite the apparent "fake Bareknuckle" image...
But the vitriolic, vendetta like response of the maker themselves puts them in the same boat as GMW for me: Reconsider when they know how to treat potential customers, because the last thing I want is to have an issue and get pissed on for purchasing a product and expecting it to be as advertised. We have a few threads of similar experiences on the Guitar shop, most notably with a Large US Guitar and Amp manufacturer, and I´d prefer to not even take the risk of adding another one.
The way it stands now, I´ll stick to Duncan, EMG, Lawrence, Bareknuckle and Häussel, because I know how well they treat customers and how they handle criticism, and am happy with both.
Best of luck for the future. :beerchug:
KLINKDETROIT said:
You´re fully entitled to your opinion, but you have to admit that comparing a "mass produced" pickup to a handwound one is very much akin to comparing a Bronze Series BC Rich or a Squire strat to a handmade USA Rich of Custom Shop Fender. A comparison to comparable handwound Duncans would have been more appropriate. IMO
That said, I had heard of MCP Pickups before, specifically in your posts KD, and found them interesting despite the apparent "fake Bareknuckle" image...
But the vitriolic, vendetta like response of the maker themselves puts them in the same boat as GMW for me: Reconsider when they know how to treat potential customers, because the last thing I want is to have an issue and get pissed on for purchasing a product and expecting it to be as advertised. We have a few threads of similar experiences on the Guitar shop, most notably with a Large US Guitar and Amp manufacturer, and I´d prefer to not even take the risk of adding another one.
The way it stands now, I´ll stick to Duncan, EMG, Lawrence, Bareknuckle and Häussel, because I know how well they treat customers and how they handle criticism, and am happy with both.
Best of luck for the future. :beerchug:
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KLINKDETROIT
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I dont think the antiquity pickups are thin or compressed, only the mass produced ones. I like Duncans alot but happen to know a guy that makes pickups locally that made a bunch to my specs. I tried every magnet combination with my C5 and alot of other pickups from Duncan but couldnt nail what I was looking for. I only responded to the bashing of a friend. I do not work for Motor City Pickups. I only helped in some R&D. I am not trying to undermine Duncan at all. I have been on this forum for a while with no problems and learned alot as well as answered alot of questions.
I would suggest that rather rude or ratherdashing get a warning as well as comments like his are what bring negativity to this site. Thanks
I dont think the antiquity pickups are thin or compressed, only the mass produced ones. I like Duncans alot but happen to know a guy that makes pickups locally that made a bunch to my specs. I tried every magnet combination with my C5 and alot of other pickups from Duncan but couldnt nail what I was looking for. I only responded to the bashing of a friend. I do not work for Motor City Pickups. I only helped in some R&D. I am not trying to undermine Duncan at all. I have been on this forum for a while with no problems and learned alot as well as answered alot of questions.
I would suggest that rather rude or ratherdashing get a warning as well as comments like his are what bring negativity to this site. Thanks
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: motor city pickups?
Wow. I just did a search on a?? and found 20 full pages. I wonder if they recieved a warning?
Wow. I just did a search on a?? and found 20 full pages. I wonder if they recieved a warning?
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: motor city pickups?
Relax, sweetheart ... it was just a joke. I'm sorry if I made you grumpy.
KLINKDETROIT said:
Relax, sweetheart ... it was just a joke. I'm sorry if I made you grumpy.
KLINKDETROIT
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I have never had any problems here so when someone has to get offended to the point of turning me in for threats and profanity when I was only kidding then it makes an illiterate person like myself very perturbed. Oh did I spell that right?
I have never had any problems here so when someone has to get offended to the point of turning me in for threats and profanity when I was only kidding then it makes an illiterate person like myself very perturbed. Oh did I spell that right?
ratherdashing
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Re: motor city pickups?
I didn't report your post, if that's what you think. Ask the admins if you don't believe me.
KLINKDETROIT said:
I didn't report your post, if that's what you think. Ask the admins if you don't believe me.
KLINKDETROIT
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Ok. Must have been someone else. Sorry for blaming you.
Ok. Must have been someone else. Sorry for blaming you.
MonkeyKnifeFighter
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Re: motor city pickups?
Detroit is dirty.
~MkF!
Detroit is dirty.
~MkF!
revolution
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Re: motor city pickups?
Well...if you go back and actually READ the thread you'll see that a consumer asked about MCP and another chimed in and bashed them FURTHERMORE telling the customer to avoid them completely. I'd say his reply wasn't promotion...it was SELF-DEFENSE.
kaffimann said:I have no problems discussing other brands in here,I was talking about that MCP employee promoting his products here
Well...if you go back and actually READ the thread you'll see that a consumer asked about MCP and another chimed in and bashed them FURTHERMORE telling the customer to avoid them completely. I'd say his reply wasn't promotion...it was SELF-DEFENSE.
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: motor city pickups?
The effects of scatter-winding vs. machine-winding aside, I'm just curious what you think is the difference, tonally, between a mass produced pickup and a custom shop one.
Do you think we have a big machine on our production floor that allows you to press a few buttons and out pops a pickup?
Do you think we run a sweat shop assembly line where people have no connection to the product?
Do you think we use different materials in "mass production" as compared to a custom shop?
Do you think there's something inherent in the assembly procedures used on our production floor that somehow translate to "thin" or "compressed" tone?
Is this just an opinion? Do you have resonant peak or output charts to compare custom shop with production, 'scuze me, "mass produced" pickups?
Have you actually compared them side-by-side?
Am I challenging your statement? Do I think you're 100% wrong?
You betcha.
The effects of scatter-winding vs. machine-winding aside, I'm just curious what you think is the difference, tonally, between a mass produced pickup and a custom shop one.
Do you think we have a big machine on our production floor that allows you to press a few buttons and out pops a pickup?
Do you think we run a sweat shop assembly line where people have no connection to the product?
Do you think we use different materials in "mass production" as compared to a custom shop?
Do you think there's something inherent in the assembly procedures used on our production floor that somehow translate to "thin" or "compressed" tone?
Is this just an opinion? Do you have resonant peak or output charts to compare custom shop with production, 'scuze me, "mass produced" pickups?
Have you actually compared them side-by-side?
Am I challenging your statement? Do I think you're 100% wrong?
You betcha.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: motor city pickups?
:laugh2: Give 'em heck Evan
Seriously..I kinda hear what he is saying..at least in the production line pups. I've not used any of the custom shops or antiquities. But I feel duncans are voiced a little "tighter" or more compressed (i.e. not as "open" as some other brands/models) and also voiced towards the higher frequency side of things.
I guess for some that might equate to "thin"? :shrug: IDK.
Evan Skopp said:
:laugh2: Give 'em heck Evan
Seriously..I kinda hear what he is saying..at least in the production line pups. I've not used any of the custom shops or antiquities. But I feel duncans are voiced a little "tighter" or more compressed (i.e. not as "open" as some other brands/models) and also voiced towards the higher frequency side of things.
I guess for some that might equate to "thin"? :shrug: IDK.
Voxman
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I know,I was`nt talking about his replys in this thread.That sure was self defense.If you read this entire thread you`ll find what i was talking about.Someone else wrote something about him hijacking other threads promoting his stuff. If that is`nt true i`ll be the first one to bend over.
EDIT. here is the line if you can`t find it
:/ I'm amazed by your not-so-subtle attempts to plug and sell your pickups in some other threads when clearly no one is asking for advice on what new hand wound to buy. :/
revolution said:
I know,I was`nt talking about his replys in this thread.That sure was self defense.If you read this entire thread you`ll find what i was talking about.Someone else wrote something about him hijacking other threads promoting his stuff. If that is`nt true i`ll be the first one to bend over.
EDIT. here is the line if you can`t find it
:/ I'm amazed by your not-so-subtle attempts to plug and sell your pickups in some other threads when clearly no one is asking for advice on what new hand wound to buy. :/
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frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: motor city pickups?
That was me, and the thread was here. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=76669
I didn't want to add anything to this thread because we're all playing nice now. But my comment has been referenced a couple times now, so I wanted to clarify, and appologize if it added to any inflamation. Maybe his response in that thread was tongue in cheek, but it seemed like he was trying to sound like a third party recommendation. The guy was asking about his 500T, and some other pups he had, along with some magnet questions, not necessarily asking if we knew of any boutique hand winds that would outperform it. So that combined with his posts here (some deleted) led to my constructive criticism.
It would be like if in a thread about fret levelling or Plek machines I said "I hear that Falbo guy does the best refrets! Send your guitar to him, forget Plek, etc" Anyway, we're all fine now, so we'll start fresh.
That was me, and the thread was here. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=76669
I didn't want to add anything to this thread because we're all playing nice now. But my comment has been referenced a couple times now, so I wanted to clarify, and appologize if it added to any inflamation. Maybe his response in that thread was tongue in cheek, but it seemed like he was trying to sound like a third party recommendation. The guy was asking about his 500T, and some other pups he had, along with some magnet questions, not necessarily asking if we knew of any boutique hand winds that would outperform it. So that combined with his posts here (some deleted) led to my constructive criticism.
It would be like if in a thread about fret levelling or Plek machines I said "I hear that Falbo guy does the best refrets! Send your guitar to him, forget Plek, etc" Anyway, we're all fine now, so we'll start fresh.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: motor city pickups?
Now I'm confused about something . . . aren't all Seymour Duncan pickups hand-wound, one at a time? That is, you put the bobbin on a winder and feed the wire by hand, one coil at a time. I don't even see how it could be done any other way.
Do I have this wrong?
Now I'm confused about something . . . aren't all Seymour Duncan pickups hand-wound, one at a time? That is, you put the bobbin on a winder and feed the wire by hand, one coil at a time. I don't even see how it could be done any other way.
Do I have this wrong?
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