Muddiness solved

[neosadist]

All,

Just to pass on some nice troubleshooting info. Scott Miller from SD was helping me on this one (and he did an excellent job). Turns out it was the weird way ESP wires their capacitor on the tone pot that was causing my pickups to sound very muddy. Me and the avionics backshopper deleted the tone controls from the equation, and now my setup (Jazz+JB) sounds excellent in my guitar (ESP LTD EC-100QM), or did for the first couple seconds. I had to "borrow" a length of headphone wire from a set of headphones to get it wired. I have a guitar wiring pack in the mail now, so that I can fix that minor length of wire and get it going. For now, thanks everyone! And thanks SD!

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: Muddiness solved

All you had to do was clip the hot wire to the tone pot to eliminate it

 

[Marcel]

Re: Muddiness solved

how is the EC 100?

 

[Sludgenutz]

Re: Muddiness solved

Congrats!

 

[chill]

Re: Muddiness solved

Turns out it was the weird way ESP wires their capacitor on the tone pot that was causing my pickups to sound very muddy.

How did they have it wired to the pot?

 

[neosadist]

Re: Muddiness solved

All you had to do was clip the hot wire to the tone pot to eliminate it

Uh, no, it was specifically the way ESP wired it. We were trying to keep it the same, which was the problem. The guitar originally had ESP LH-100 pickups.

 

[neosadist]

Re: Muddiness solved

how is the EC 100?

I like it thus far. The sound was very beautiful. Now I know why most ESPs come with '59/JB combo (except maybe the Dave Mustain line), because the Jazz/JB is more bright and singing. No problem, however, as I got what I asked for, and I'm very pleased. The guitar itself plays very nice, I have no complaints, except that mine is a display model, or was at the store I purchased it, and the bridge high three string saddle screws are missing the retaining washer, so I have minor intonation issues once in a while. I'll just upgrade to the Tone Pros. Other than that, no problems at all.

 

[neosadist]

Re: Muddiness solved

How did they have it wired to the pot?

All wiring was shielded. They had hot wire to the pot, i.e. two volumes going to one tone, but then the capacitor was across the two terminals the hot lines were on (like sort of joining them). Weird because those two pots that the hot lines go to are already electrically the same (i.e. wired together / continuity / etc terminology). I was suspecting that they did something different, so we just deleted the tone altogether as a troubleshooting measure, and it worked. Just waiting on the wiring pack I bought to come in.

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: Muddiness solved

Uh, no, it was specifically the way ESP wired it. We were trying to keep it the same, which was the problem. The guitar originally had ESP LH-100 pickups.

Um, yes. I don't care what it had in it if you remove the signal path to the tone controls they are removed from the circuit which is what you said you did to fix it in your first post.

 

[neosadist]

Re: Muddiness solved

Um, yes. I don't care what it had in it if you remove the signal path to the tone controls they are removed from the circuit which is what you said you did to fix it in your first post.

I was clearing up what the fix was, since you made it sound like you're being a jerk. The problem was how ESP wired it (since we were trying to preserve how they had things). The solution for now was to cut it out of the circuit, since we couldn't verify the value on the capacitor. It was mainly a troubleshooting fix that we just kept. Welcome to ignore.

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: Muddiness solved

I was clearing up what the fix was, since you made it sound like you're being a jerk. The problem was how ESP wired it (since we were trying to preserve how they had things). The solution for now was to cut it out of the circuit, since we couldn't verify the value on the capacitor. It was mainly a troubleshooting fix that we just kept. Welcome to ignore.

If stating an obvious and much simpler workaround to bypassing tghe tone controles makes me a jerk then so be it. Wish granted. Your ignored.