Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
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King IzzO)))
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
Tuner fo sho. Dweebs tuning to each other is soooo lame.
I say TS-9.
Tuner fo sho. Dweebs tuning to each other is soooo lame.
I say TS-9.
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Jack_TriPpEr
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
My mention of Dime was actually just about how reading that article made me aware that such a thing as a Doubler even existed. Never heard of it before.
I won't argue that Dime had "the best" tone, but I disagree with your assertion that his tone was essentially crap. And that's OK - you and I don't have to agree. But if you wish to have others actually reconsider their own opinions or seriously consider yours, you need to do a better job making a case for your opinion. What you wrote above is really light on any facts, and preachy. For example, you wrote that he never even attempted to perfect his tone. That's easily shown to be incorrect if you recall that he chose to use aftermarket pickups (Bill Lawrence to start with at least), that he used a Doubler to make his sound bigger, and in his signal chain, he used 1st one EQ pedal where he squashed all the mids, followed by a second EQ where he brought some of them back in. I think it was the same Guitar World interview with Grady where that was mentioned. Regardless of whether you personally liked the results or not, those actions are clearly signs of someone that was trying to improve their tone.
My mention of Dime was actually just about how reading that article made me aware that such a thing as a Doubler even existed. Never heard of it before.
I won't argue that Dime had "the best" tone, but I disagree with your assertion that his tone was essentially crap. And that's OK - you and I don't have to agree. But if you wish to have others actually reconsider their own opinions or seriously consider yours, you need to do a better job making a case for your opinion. What you wrote above is really light on any facts, and preachy. For example, you wrote that he never even attempted to perfect his tone. That's easily shown to be incorrect if you recall that he chose to use aftermarket pickups (Bill Lawrence to start with at least), that he used a Doubler to make his sound bigger, and in his signal chain, he used 1st one EQ pedal where he squashed all the mids, followed by a second EQ where he brought some of them back in. I think it was the same Guitar World interview with Grady where that was mentioned. Regardless of whether you personally liked the results or not, those actions are clearly signs of someone that was trying to improve their tone.
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
Depends what you mean by metal, for the more modern tech stuff I do I run a delay into my effects loop and an od in front and that's it....When I'm bringing the swedish I usually take the delay out and will put an HM2 in front of the OD.....I think the HM2 just has a grind and grit that screams metal to me.....
When I was playing with a Doomy/sludgy band years ago I had a hyperfuzz and I really liked using it with the neck pup....If I was on the bridge I was usually cutting that pedal off and just running an OD......This was with my 68 bassman head, when I got my Pitbull I pretty much dropped the OD and kept the hyper fuzz in front just for use with the neck pup...I also used a POG with the neck pup for some pretty trippy solo stuff.... We were going for an Isis Soilent Green hybrid type sound....
My primary axes at that time were an MIJ strat with two HBs (Duncan JBs) and an old beat to **** LP Studio with a pair of 59s in it...I tried the Custom in the Studio and wasn't in love with it in my rig.....
Depends what you mean by metal, for the more modern tech stuff I do I run a delay into my effects loop and an od in front and that's it....When I'm bringing the swedish I usually take the delay out and will put an HM2 in front of the OD.....I think the HM2 just has a grind and grit that screams metal to me.....
When I was playing with a Doomy/sludgy band years ago I had a hyperfuzz and I really liked using it with the neck pup....If I was on the bridge I was usually cutting that pedal off and just running an OD......This was with my 68 bassman head, when I got my Pitbull I pretty much dropped the OD and kept the hyper fuzz in front just for use with the neck pup...I also used a POG with the neck pup for some pretty trippy solo stuff.... We were going for an Isis Soilent Green hybrid type sound....
My primary axes at that time were an MIJ strat with two HBs (Duncan JBs) and an old beat to **** LP Studio with a pair of 59s in it...I tried the Custom in the Studio and wasn't in love with it in my rig.....
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~Vintage~
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
It sounds like you've thought this out some.
It sounds like you've thought this out some.
~Vintage~
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
The MXR 10-band and the CAE dual fasel wah. And Monster Rock cables! FTW! That is basically all I use, I'm phasing out the last couple "other brand" cables as we speak.
A good highgain amp would be #1, of course.
But if you wanted something that did it all.....this.
Substitute the blue for the Uberschall, if necessary. For metal, graphic EQ's are good to have, whether they're in front or in the FX loop.
The MXR 10-band and the CAE dual fasel wah. And Monster Rock cables! FTW! That is basically all I use, I'm phasing out the last couple "other brand" cables as we speak.
~Vintage~
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I would also add the MXR Carbon Copy is a must on a metal guitarist's pedal board.
And if you don't trust your amp to deliver a usable lead tone, a dedicated "lead" pedal like the Ibanez TS-808 Vintage Tube Screamer reissue. That thing will sing solos for you like Randy Rhoads' tone had risen from the grave and possessed your amp.
I would also add the MXR Carbon Copy is a must on a metal guitarist's pedal board.
And if you don't trust your amp to deliver a usable lead tone, a dedicated "lead" pedal like the Ibanez TS-808 Vintage Tube Screamer reissue. That thing will sing solos for you like Randy Rhoads' tone had risen from the grave and possessed your amp.
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There are a bunch of guys selling those on ebay, basically a pot between two jacks. I built one when I had a jcm800. Works alright, doesn't do the same thing (or sound the same) as an attenuator but it does what it does: provide you with a (or anotyher) master volume...try it.
There are a bunch of guys selling those on ebay, basically a pot between two jacks. I built one when I had a jcm800. Works alright, doesn't do the same thing (or sound the same) as an attenuator but it does what it does: provide you with a (or anotyher) master volume...try it.
Grindspine
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
Thx.
Did it colour tone too much or what, compared to attenuation?? Any risks from dialing it below threshold or to zero/off, or is it just a harmless standby/killswitch in a different place?
Thx.
Did it colour tone too much or what, compared to attenuation?? Any risks from dialing it below threshold or to zero/off, or is it just a harmless standby/killswitch in a different place?
Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
It doesn't color the tone anymore than using your master volume would and by that, less than an attenuator I would guess. It goes from no volume drop to max that your pot will allow. There's no inherent risk since it only goes in your effects loop, not between the amp and speaker.
It doesn't color the tone anymore than using your master volume would and by that, less than an attenuator I would guess. It goes from no volume drop to max that your pot will allow. There's no inherent risk since it only goes in your effects loop, not between the amp and speaker.
TimmyPage
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
If you're playing modern metal, having a TS styled pedal is extremely important. Just leave it on next to your amp, with the tone turned up a little and the gain really low to just give your gain sound an extra level of tightness.
An EQ pedal always helps, the ability to shape your tone more than just the EQ options on your amp is really good. If you're a Djenter, this is practically required for that upper-mid boost.
Noise gate only if you feel like your rig has too much noise, but I'd actually substitute that for a volume pedal so that you can have your purer sound while playing, and shut the signal off between songs.
If you're playing modern metal, having a TS styled pedal is extremely important. Just leave it on next to your amp, with the tone turned up a little and the gain really low to just give your gain sound an extra level of tightness.
An EQ pedal always helps, the ability to shape your tone more than just the EQ options on your amp is really good. If you're a Djenter, this is practically required for that upper-mid boost.
Noise gate only if you feel like your rig has too much noise, but I'd actually substitute that for a volume pedal so that you can have your purer sound while playing, and shut the signal off between songs.
Kac
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Re: Must Haves for Metal Guitarist's pedalboard
This thread has been a big help in rebuilding my pedalboard after I sold off everything.
added a modded DS-1 that I leave on to color and shape the tone a little bit, a GE-7 that I'm still working with to see how I like it best, a PS-5 (Super Shifter) and a noise gate.
Brutality awaits once I figure exactly how I want to utilize my new rig.
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This thread has been a big help in rebuilding my pedalboard after I sold off everything.
added a modded DS-1 that I leave on to color and shape the tone a little bit, a GE-7 that I'm still working with to see how I like it best, a PS-5 (Super Shifter) and a noise gate.
Brutality awaits once I figure exactly how I want to utilize my new rig.
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Hmm... and it doesn't overheat either. Or cost 200 bucks. Sounds like the better solution for FX-loop equipped amps, by far.
Any idea about pot values? Minimum available, like 25k, or as big as you can get, like 1meg?
Ideally, this'd probably be a mod to an EQ pedal, a post-graphic second volume no-load pot just before the output jack.. but, really, it can probably get as simple as a single potentiometer soldered into a standard instrument cable cut in two???
...Are there any dangerous voltages in an FX loop? Or do you not even have to shield it much past wrapping the bugger in electrical tape??
Hmm... and it doesn't overheat either. Or cost 200 bucks. Sounds like the better solution for FX-loop equipped amps, by far.
Any idea about pot values? Minimum available, like 25k, or as big as you can get, like 1meg?
Ideally, this'd probably be a mod to an EQ pedal, a post-graphic second volume no-load pot just before the output jack.. but, really, it can probably get as simple as a single potentiometer soldered into a standard instrument cable cut in two???
...Are there any dangerous voltages in an FX loop? Or do you not even have to shield it much past wrapping the bugger in electrical tape??
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