MXR 10 Band EQ Pedal

[Diego]

Re: MXR 10 Band EQ Pedal

I hate to sound like an ass, but do the 31hz, 62hz and 16k bands really do anything worth the extra dough?

I've got a GE7 and I've never wanted to tweak anything below 100 hz, which I already think it's a bit too low for guitar.
And over 8k only lives pain... and fizz.

The GE7 does have some flaws and I can see why everyone does the Sniper mod or whatever it's called, but I've always scractched my head at those outer bands the MXR has. But I've never tried one.
I'd rock the crap out of the 500, 1khz and 2khz bands though. If you can't sculpt a nice midrange out of that, it's gotta be your fault!

 

[Demanic]

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Well, I suppose you could use the 32hz band as a bass cut, unless you had a cab that would handle the frequencies. Same with 62hz. Really, same for 16hz. Just think of how much bandwidth you could open up if you cut all three for a system that can't make use of them. On the other hand, you could plug one in to the loop of a P.A.

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[Diego]

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I also forgot that it's not purpose built for guitar, I think? So those uber-low freqs would make sense for a bass or a keyboard maybe or something.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

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I have one of the originals from the 70s. Blue, AC powered, no footswitch. Still going strong after more than forty years.

Yes, better in a loop than in front of the amp. Unless you're using it as a frequency-specific boost box, which certainly is an option. But it'll be quieter in the loop. A little EQ does indeed go a long way- at first, probably best to use it more for cutting than for boosting.

As mentioned above, these cover the entire frequency spectrum. Very high freqs might give you a little more sparkle on clean tones or air in general; they can also squeal horrendously if you aren't careful. It's possible that cutting the very low end can get you a bit more headroom and maybe help the guitar sit a little better in the mix. Sometimes small tweaks that make little apparent difference to your tone can be audible in terms of interaction with other elements in a band context. But most of the usable difference will be in the central bands.

The difference between this and the graphic in an amp is that the bands on this one are quite broad, a full octave apiece. The bands on an amp are narrower, and are tuned specifically for guitar use. They really are fairly different tools, despite the fact that they operate similarly.

 

[jeremy]

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the lowest note on a standard guitar is around 82hz i believe. a bass guitar is down near 41hz. guitar speakers usually dont produce much above 5khz

 

[Diego]

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The difference between this and the graphic in an amp is that the bands on this one are quite broad, a full octave apiece. The bands on an amp are narrower, and are tuned specifically for guitar use. They really are fairly different tools, despite the fact that they operate similarly.

Besides the range differential that you bring up, there's also the Q factor (amount of frequencies that each slider controls, which is normally WAY broader in the amp controls than in external EQ devices) and the fact that some amplifiers have a certain "interaction" between bands - cutting the bass gives more mids, for example.

This doesn't happen with graphic EQ on the loop. It's much cleaner, more precise and stronger.

 

[dg27]

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I also forgot that it's not purpose built for guitar, I think? So those uber-low freqs would make sense for a bass or a keyboard maybe or something.

I use it strictly for bass and love it. I primarily cut.

 

[BloodRose]

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Well, this old thread has given me some new ideas! Don't think Ive ever tried mine in the loop. (may have and forgotten), plus, never tried it for bass either.. Will have to try both. Thanks fellas!!

 

[astrozombie]

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the lowest note on a standard guitar is around 82hz i believe. a bass guitar is down near 41hz. guitar speakers usually dont produce much above 5khz

You're not really getting so much of the fundamental at frequencies like 82hz. I'd say 82hz is just below the "bottom" of the guitar.

If I owned a pedal like this any slider under 100hz would be completely attenuated.

I also don't see what use I would have for 16k. 16k is way too high to do anything but add hiss to the sound.

 

[ehdwuld]

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You're not really getting so much of the fundamental at frequencies like 82hz. I'd say 82hz is just below the "bottom" of the guitar.

If I owned a pedal like this any slider under 100hz would be completely attenuated.

I also don't see what use I would have for 16k. 16k is way too high to do anything but add hiss to the sound.

Or remove hiss , right

 

[dg27]

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Or remove hiss , right

That's how I use it on mine.

 

[baritone]

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Every guitarist should own an equalizer, graphic or parametric, regardless if it's marketed for guitar or bass, front of the amp, in the loop, or under your bed.

My favorite way to use an EQ is to identify a harsh frequency, trim it, and raise the overall volume.

 

[Demanic]

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+1
The best being a graphic and a parametric. In different positions of course, one in front and the other in the loop.

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[Lampy H]

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+1
The best being a graphic and a parametric. In different positions of course, one in front and the other in the loop.

Do you have a clear preference for one kind in front and he other in the loop?

 

[Demanic]

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I should have added that you probably need to try them and see. I think I would use the graphic in front possibly as a lead boost and a para in the loop to sculpt the overall tone of the amp. But it could just as easily be done the other way.

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[BloodRose]

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Since the topic has opened up, Im gonna ask a noob type question. Whats the diff tween graphic and parametric?

 

[Demanic]

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Graphic has distinct bands that you can boost or cut. Parametric has the ability to choose a center band that you can boost or cut, the better ones allow you to choose the width of the band affected and the shape, ie. wide U , narrow V.

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[BloodRose]

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oh, ok, gotcha. thanks

 

[astrozombie]

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Or remove hiss , right

right! My mind missed this completely.

 

[LevRage]

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MXR 108 through the front of my Savage 120 and not much for results however hooked through my effects loop and tone literally JUMPS out of the speaker cabinets! I can now use my amp lead channel only for crushing rhythms and simply hit my Moen Loop switch which will engage both my EQ and delay to add boost and full body to my solos. Might try the Phase 90 set at low volume for added texture but so far very happy with the MXR in my arsenal.\m/(-_*)\m/