MXR's Randy Rhoads Distortion+ pedal

I did like it when it came out, like Sacred Heart. Neither hold up. Knowing how talented Dio has been in his career, why he settled on writing mid-tempo 80s metal ballads, I'll never know.

I'd have to disagree. To me, it is the solo album that stands up the second best from a songwriting perspective: it is more diverse and interesting than Last in Line, more consistent than Sacred Heart. I will concede that it does not have the monster tracks of the first record, even though it is arguably more consistent.

There are some signs of the plodding Dio that would haunt much of his later material. Sunset Superman has one of his most hard-hitting intros and verses, but halving the pulse in the chorus does not really work for me.
 
I'd have to disagree. To me, it is the solo album that stands up the second best from a songwriting perspective: it is more diverse and interesting than Last in Line, more consistent than Sacred Heart. I will concede that it does not have the monster tracks of the first record, even though it is arguably more consistent.

There are some signs of the plodding Dio that would haunt much of his later material. Sunset Superman has one of his most hard-hitting intros and verses, but halving the pulse in the chorus does not really work for me.

For me, it was clear he was writing to an audience- specifically 13 year old metal fans (or the 13 year old metal fan in all of us). To be fair, I loved Sacred Heart and Dream Evil when it came out, but I also loved Bark at the Moon, and listening back to it, it sounds the same to me...music written to appeal to 80s teens. Great if you are a teen in the 80s, but doesn't work for me outside of that. Dio's previous work with Elf, Rainbow, & Sabbath all sounded like a band trying to prove themselves and put their unique artistic statement out there.
 
I was/am a huge RR fan. It was the Distortion/Jazz combo in his Jackson's that led me to Seymour Duncan when I wanted humbuckers in my Bullet S3.

Back on topic, the D+ is one of the reasons I am not that big on pedals. I bought one but it never sounded that great to me. Although I may have been stuck comparing it to the TS the other guitarist in the band was using. I also do not recall the D+ getting much love in the 80's. It could have been the part of the country I lived in, but everyone around me was using a TS.

I anticipate always being a RR fan, but likely will never get another D+.

If anything I need to get my crap out of storage and unbox that Diamondhead I bought week 2 as I liked the tone I was hearing in the demos.

MXR Distortion + came out 47 yrs ago. Was a different planet.
When Hendrix played there were only about 5 guitar pedals on the planet.
Some folks have no idea what was NOT available then.
 
For me, it was clear he was writing to an audience- specifically 13 year old metal fans (or the 13 year old metal fan in all of us). To be fair, I loved Sacred Heart and Dream Evil when it came out, but I also loved Bark at the Moon, and listening back to it, it sounds the same to me...music written to appeal to 80s teens. Great if you are a teen in the 80s, but doesn't work for me outside of that. Dio's previous work with Elf, Rainbow, & Sabbath all sounded like a band trying to prove themselves and put their unique artistic statement out there.

Sure... but we are still comparing Dream Evil to Holy Diver/Last in Line, right? To "one night in the city, one night looking pretty"? Isn't this a teeny tiny bit hyperbolical?
 
Sure... but we are still comparing Dream Evil to Holy Diver/Last in Line, right? To "one night in the city, one night looking pretty"? Isn't this a teeny tiny bit hyperbolical?

Yeah, lyrically, none of it is all that great. What the hell is a Holy Diver? But the music rocked.
 
Yeah, lyrically, none of it is all that great. What the hell is a Holy Diver? But the music rocked.

Agreed. And I will also agree that Ronnie streamlined his approach through his career, gradually opting for shorter, more standardized song templates. To be fair, though, a lot of his contemporaries, from Rainbow to Judas Priest, did the same thing.
 
Elf, Sabbath, and Rainbow get the most listens from me over anything in the Dio catalog, though. It seemed he wasn't writing for as narrow of an audience. And he had other writers in those bands, too.
 

I met RJD on a Boeing 727 from Evansville IN to O'Hare in 1980. Had been to the BS show the night before. He was just a regular guy. With his wife & kid. His kid had an original SONY walkman from Japan. The WM had not been released in thr US yet.
The devil schtick was just that a schtick.
Ronnie had his moments. He seemed to have terrible relationships with his bandmates for whatever reasons.
 
Elf, Sabbath, and Rainbow get the most listens from me over anything in the Dio catalog, though. It seemed he wasn't writing for as narrow of an audience. And he had other writers in those bands, too.

Given what I know of your preferences, I am not surprised at all – and Rainbow is probably still my favourite band if you put a gun to my head. But the early Dio albums outsold anything he did in those other bands by a wide margin, so I'm not sure that "narrow audience" is the correct term.

(I hope I am not being too much of a pain here. Even when we disagree or even when I am bemused, I engage with your opinions because I want to know why when you are in the wrong. ;-) )
 
Ronnie had his moments. He seemed to have terrible relationships with his bandmates for whatever reasons.

This seems to vary more than you'd think. Craig Goldy has never said a bad word about him, and he seems to have got along well enough with Ritchie Blackmore: I've never heard the two snipe at each other over the Rainbow era.
 
This seems to vary more than you'd think. Craig Goldy has never said a bad word about him, and he seems to have got along well enough with Ritchie Blackmore: I've never heard the two snipe at each other over the Rainbow era.

Im sure some were amicable but Viv Campbell & D. Aldrich talk about the Dio hate. Just kinda weird.
Its just music man.
 
MXR Distortion + came out 47 yrs ago. Was a different planet.
When Hendrix played there were only about 5 guitar pedals on the planet.
Some folks have no idea what was NOT available then.
When I first began buying gear for real in ‘74, there were two clear pedal-paths for aspiring tone-hungry rock guitarists.
Either a Rangemaster TB into an AC30 normal input. (Echo impossible when distorted)
Or either Dallas Arbiter silicone Fuzz Face or silicone Tone Bender into a Marshall JTM or JMP.
The more intelligent amongst us bought an Echoplex EP3 for it’s smooth preamp.
Then perhaps a Vox Wah or Cry Baby.
That was it. There was nothing else of any use, unless you wanted a Univibe.

The Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face, with the proper BC107 and BC108C transistors, had probably 7 components in total.
With gain on full, you could ride the guitar volume onstage, and if you put big knobs on it, you could control level with your foot too.
With a proper full-blooded amp, and the guitar on 6 or so at high volume - there wasn’t any ‘fuzz’. It was a great distorted sound, and the Echoplex could make it soar into the stratosphere - or whatever. You learned very quickly not to turn the guitar to 10. (The bedroom boys were stuck on 10 btw - and most still are, and that disparity with stage musicians is what clouds discussions to this day)
Amp distortion was rare in cutting-edge rock for the player that cut solos - it really was.

In ‘75 the floodgates opened.
MXR and Electro Harmonix mainly.
Those used to fuzz-faces dismissed the Big Muff Pi as utter shit, and it was.
The MXR Distortion Plus was also dismissed. It just couldn’t quite get there, and had an ugly grating side to it - whereas the Muff was just a muffled op-amp mess.
The perpetuation of mediocre pedals is the fault of the amateur and semi-pro crowd. Advertising rammed this shit down people’s throats, they bought utter shite in droves, touted it round a billion holiday camps, bars, and social clubs, and hey - you couldn’t buy a decent 60’s Fuzz Face for £6 in Macari’s anymore.

I simply learned to distrust anything that came after that, and still do.
The only pedal that has been interesting for me was the J.Rockett Allan Holdsworth boost. But I’m not sure if it is suitable for hammering out Ozzy Classics!

My board in ‘77 was Vox Wah - Phase 100 - Fuzz Face - Blue Box - Clone Theory - Electric Mistress Deluxe - into an Echoplex EP3 - into a Marshall Plexi Superbass 100 stack. With a ‘62 Strat.
A legendary setup, with ATC speakers. Sure discouraged a lot of up-and-coming boys with that stuff!

What really changed everything was MASTER VOLUME!
But how cruel not to put a loop on the amps, so you could use a good echo unit.
So the world basically split in half at this point.
If my first Master Volume Marshall 100 had been fitted with a loop, then I might well have found a Distortion plus quite adequate in gently driving the input stage further. A Fuzz Face with it’s gain on 4 is ok, but a million pedals will do that.
Seriously, were any of these 80’s rockers like Randy using their distortion boxes on full gain into a JCM800? I think not.
So we have to admit that mostly anything that has a bit of grit, and a level boost - would be just as good.
Randy could have used absolutely anything, and got the same results.
You might as well put polka dots on a Marshall Guvnor!

I’m only saying all this because what we are hearing from Randy is surely NOT the sound of a Distortion Plus?

(In ‘87 I flew from Sweden to New York to audition for Zinc, and my trusty audition-friendly Fuzz Face was in bits somewhere. So Soundside recommended and lent me several pedals, one of which was an original RAT. I would be relying on this for all my distortion for solos. Fucking nightmare. Aside from the jet-lag, the Rat howled and squealed all the time, and the whole session was utterly embarrassing. I thankfully discovered a master hidden on the rear of the studio Marshall, and retrieved a little dignity. But that destroyed me. Fucking Rat. Don’t ever mention the cunt to me.)
 
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I looked up the setlists for the show I saw in '81. So much music for $10. No wonder I walked out of there in a daze

Def Leppard

Switch 625 (Instrumental)
On Through The Night
It Could Be You
It Don't Matter
Another Hit And Run
Lady Strange
Rock Brigade
High 'N' Dry (Saturday Night) (Extended)
Let It Go
Wasted

Ozzy Osbourne:

"O Fortuna" (Carl Orff song)
I Don't Know
Crazy Train
Believer
Mr. Crowley
Flying High Again
Revelation (Mother Earth)
Steal Away (The Night)
Drum Solo (Tommy Aldridge)
Suicide Solution (Randy Rhoads Guitar Solo)
Iron Man (Black Sabbath cover)
Children of the Grave (Black Sabbath cover)
Encore: Paranoid (Black Sabbath cover)
 
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