my dr. Z airbrake review

[JeffB]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

I agree the OP could have worded things diffetently, but you guys jumping on him about what attentuators are supposed to be for, are ignoring the fact that dr.z and a few other other companies advertise them to do exactly what the OP bought it for. If the attentuator has a "bedroom" setting, then it should work at those volumes. Being a prick with a superior knowledge complex about it is unwarranted.

 

[FretFire]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

I agree the OP could have worded things diffetently, but you guys jumping on him about what attentuators are supposed to be for, are ignoring the fact that dr.z and a few other other companies advertise them to do exactly what the OP bought it for. If the attentuator has a "bedroom" setting, then it should work at those volumes. Being a prick with a superior knowledge complex about it is unwarranted.

It also depends on what you expect when reading the word "bedroom". The volume it reaches might be fine for one person's home environment, and too loud for someone else.

 

[ParameterMan]

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Being a prick with a superior knowledge complex about it is unwarranted.

Thank you. I agree I've been a bit cranky but let's step it up a notch to full-bore personal attacks. Please continue, my day needs more of this.

 

[JeffB]

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Come on AJ. We can argue semantics and definitions til we are blue, but this is simply a case of misleading marketing..and engraved right on the product!

All of us have purchased some sort of pricey guitar item that never lived up to what the ad said it would do. We have all been naive about this stuff at some point. Sure we know it works best at knocking off a few db for a club gig, or the garage or when nobody is home. We know if you set them super low the speakers arent doing a damn thing and it sounds like poop. We know this from experience, but we did not always. Now the OP knows, but jumping on him because he took the product ad at face value as advertised is just not cool in my book.

 

[ParameterMan]

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Come on AJ. We can argue semantics and definitions [...] face value as advertised is just not cool in my book.

I'm not arguing that. I'm taking unwarranted levels of offense at this:

Being a prick with a superior knowledge complex about it is unwarranted.

Because I'm in a bad mood. But you can keep repeating yourself ad infinitum.

P.S. I do hate misleading advertising. What colored my original stance is Dr. Z's elusive dissertation on brakes that I can't find anywhere on his site any more. It used to be easily available knowledge with no excuse for not knowing it.

Also, I'm now a prick with a complex for mistrusting marketing copy and knowing how to do my damn research. I'll keep that in mind for future reference. Get off my damn lawn!

 

[JeffB]

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You werent the only one down on the OP,parameter. Sorry if you feel singled out, but hyperbolic arguments about the OP not doing his research is a cop-out.

In addition, my last post was directed towards AJ..I did mention his name. So the repeating comment is also BS. Your bad mood is clouding your reason.

 

[ParameterMan]

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[...] my last post was directed towards AJ..I did mention his name. So the repeating comment is also BS. Your bad mood is clouding your reason.

Ok.

I did scan the thread and didn't see a handle I thought could be shortened to AJ attached to any post of substance. I'm obviously out of the loop.

 

[JeffB]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

Ok.

I did scan the thread and didn't see a handle I thought could be shortened to AJ attached to any post of substance. I'm obviously out of the loop.

I should have quoted him, but I neglected to, so that probably added to the confusion.

AJ is FretFire. We have been friends here for many years but we do disagree from time to time just like everyone else in the world. His name is in his sig if you have sigs turned on.

We can all be pricks here from time to time. Myself being a frequent offender. I was just calling people out because we have all been in the OPs sitch before, and were being pretty unreasonable, IMO. I would hope someone would call me out too.

 

[ParameterMan]

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I should have quoted him, but I neglected to, so that probably added to the confusion.

AJ is FretFire. We have been friends here for many years but we do disagree from time to time just like everyone else in the world. His name is in his sig if you have sigs turned on.

Ah yes... I have sigs turned off because I'm a compulsive reader and they cause me to become mentally unstable. Like I need an excuse.
:friday:

 

[FretFire]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

I wasn't intending to argue semantics, I just think "bedroom volume" is an obscure and meaningless term. The volume that the Airbrake brought the OP's amp down to might have been fine with me at my house, but it was obviously still too loud for him so he was unhappy with the product.

 

[JeffB]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

I wasn't intending to argue semantics, I just think "bedroom volume" is an obscure and meaningless term. The volume that the Airbrake brought the OP's amp down to might have been fine with me at my house, but it was obviously still too loud for him so he was unhappy with the product.

Yup. Bedroom volume is subjective. Probably a good topic candidate for another thread and poll.

Or maybe not :banghead:

 

[JeffB]

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Ah yes... I have sigs turned off because I'm a compulsive reader and they cause me to become mentally unstable. Like I need an excuse.
:friday:

No worries. I can forward you the name and number of my shrink if you need it.:friday:

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

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If "bedroom volume" has to be super quiet, maybe you need to be having louder sex.

 

[FretFire]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

If "bedroom volume" has to be super quiet, maybe you need to be having louder sex.

 

[esandes]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

for those of you who don't like my review..go buy an airbrake and shove it up your keister sideways. when you sacrifice some money and come here to give a review to potential buyers, consider it a good deed. reading manuals and trying it firsthand are different experiences. don't think you're clever by making statements after the fact from an experienced poster.

re-read my first post carefully and give your little brain a shake.

a few weeks ago i was here asking for opinions on the dr. z and thd hotplate and the attenuator geniuses like parameterman were nowhere to be found. you certainly didn't reply to that thread. but now you feel the need to troll my thread because you think 30 db is like nothing. you're definitely a terrible, failed musician and most likely a minimum wage earner who likes to throw rocks at airplanes.

when the volume knob on a non-master amp does as good of a job at "attenuation" don't bother with it. 2/10

 

[JeffB]

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I take it back.

 

[FretFire]

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...more rambling

How about you read what Ted Weber (of Weber speakers, who makes one of the best attenuators out there) has to say about an attenuator.

Taken from http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm

Here are some facts to consider when using an attenuator. Attenuators do work. They are not the cause of transformer failures. An attenuator can only simulate two out of the four components that are involved when you crank up an amp. The four components are #1 preamp tube distortion, #2 power tube distortion, #3 speaker distortion and #4 the physical movement of air that your speakers produce at high volumes. So the two components missing are speaker distortion and the physical movement of air and these are huge components! So if you’re playing at moderate volumes and just want to tame the amp down to get a bit of power tube breakup then an attenuator is a great tool, but do not expect to be able to dime your amp and then use any attenuator on the market to get the exact same sound from your amp at whisper quiet volumes. You can't get there from here. You would be better off with a one watt amp.

This information is easy to find. If you had done a little research on attenuators before buying one, maybe it would have corrected your expectations.

 

[ratherdashing]

Re: my dr. Z airbrake review

for those of you who don't like my review..go buy an airbrake and shove it up your keister sideways. when you sacrifice some money and come here to give a review to potential buyers, consider it a good deed. reading manuals and trying it firsthand are different experiences. don't think you're clever by making statements after the fact from an experienced poster.

re-read my first post carefully and give your little brain a shake.

a few weeks ago i was here asking for opinions on the dr. z and thd hotplate and the attenuator geniuses like parameterman were nowhere to be found. you certainly didn't reply to that thread. but now you feel the need to troll my thread because you think 30 db is like nothing. you're definitely a terrible, failed musician and most likely a minimum wage earner who likes to throw rocks at airplanes.

So ... literally everyone in this thread disagrees with you, and your response is basically "you suck, I'm right, end of discussion."

You should run for office.