Hello everyone my name is Ryan, I'm totally new to guitar and the world that is rock. I've always had passion for music and would love to one day be able to replicate some of my favorite metal bands. I would like a nall the remains/ children of bodom type sound and am looking for help in what all I need buy for starting off. I would says budget is around 1000 dollars and I've been doing a lot of research. So car I've thought I want this set up. Let me know what you think of it. Line 6 Spider IV 75 75-watt 1x12 Modeling Guitar Amplifier with a Dean Guitars Dave Mustaine ZEROX CBK Solid-Body Electric Guitar. I found both of those together for 600$ and though it seemed like a damn good deal for the sound I want. Thanks for any and all help. I'm blind too the vastness that is purchasing guitar parts/accessories.
My First Rig
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kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: My First Rig
Man for those dollars you ould get a great first rig. Everyone will have a different idea but if i was in your position i would hunt for a japan made charvel or ibanez.
All the kids with line 6 amps set to the insane setting are try hard fools. Get yourself a peavey bandit 80 watt solid state job. They are a serious amp for metal and a perfect intro into amps. I have also seen some well priced new blackstar amps.
Get this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Charvel-Fusion-Red-Guitar-/231299743199?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35da89fddf
and this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-Bandit-112-100-watts-Guitar-Amplifier-/161385955489?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item25935a40a1
Man for those dollars you ould get a great first rig. Everyone will have a different idea but if i was in your position i would hunt for a japan made charvel or ibanez.
All the kids with line 6 amps set to the insane setting are try hard fools. Get yourself a peavey bandit 80 watt solid state job. They are a serious amp for metal and a perfect intro into amps. I have also seen some well priced new blackstar amps.
Get this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Charvel-Fusion-Red-Guitar-/231299743199?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35da89fddf
and this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-Bandit-112-100-watts-Guitar-Amplifier-/161385955489?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item25935a40a1
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CTN
The Drama Dude
Re: My First Rig
the guitar's fine, but look into the Randall Diavlo series amps (the new ones designed by Mike Fortin). They're affordable and sound amazing. You won't have a bajillion effects like the Line 6 does, but your high gain sounds will be far far far better sounding.
You could also check out the Blackstar HT, ID or Metal series amps. they're not too bad either.
the guitar's fine, but look into the Randall Diavlo series amps (the new ones designed by Mike Fortin). They're affordable and sound amazing. You won't have a bajillion effects like the Line 6 does, but your high gain sounds will be far far far better sounding.
You could also check out the Blackstar HT, ID or Metal series amps. they're not too bad either.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: My First Rig
Welcome to the forum.
First of all, could we establish which London you are in; Ontario, Ohio or the REAL ONE in England?
I agree with K and CTN. Ignore the Line6 amp. Get something simple, tough, portable and reliable. Use this to provide your basic clean guitar sounds. Run a distortion or overdrive pedal in front of the amplifier to introduce your preferred kind of filth.
As for the guitar, in Metal, looks matter a great deal. (This is not my sphere. I tend to go for the "old guy" Fender and Gibson shapes.) Something pointy with a single, high output humbucker should answer the brief. In your price range, I would steer away from guitars with budget double locking vibrato systems.
Welcome to the forum.
First of all, could we establish which London you are in; Ontario, Ohio or the REAL ONE in England?
I agree with K and CTN. Ignore the Line6 amp. Get something simple, tough, portable and reliable. Use this to provide your basic clean guitar sounds. Run a distortion or overdrive pedal in front of the amplifier to introduce your preferred kind of filth.
As for the guitar, in Metal, looks matter a great deal. (This is not my sphere. I tend to go for the "old guy" Fender and Gibson shapes.) Something pointy with a single, high output humbucker should answer the brief. In your price range, I would steer away from guitars with budget double locking vibrato systems.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: My First Rig
Follow the first link in post #2. The Floyd Rose-licensed vibrato on the Charvel Fusion guitar is a double locking system. (The strings are fastened within the bridge saddles and, again, at the low end of the fingerboard, beyond the top nut.)
A brand new genuine Floyd Rose system retails for as much as an entire pre-owned mid-price electric guitar. As you can imagine, the quality on the budget vibrato is compromised even when it is new. After a few year's use, the unit could be shot, leading to tuning stability problems.
Follow the first link in post #2. The Floyd Rose-licensed vibrato on the Charvel Fusion guitar is a double locking system. (The strings are fastened within the bridge saddles and, again, at the low end of the fingerboard, beyond the top nut.)
A brand new genuine Floyd Rose system retails for as much as an entire pre-owned mid-price electric guitar. As you can imagine, the quality on the budget vibrato is compromised even when it is new. After a few year's use, the unit could be shot, leading to tuning stability problems.
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: My First Rig
Get a guitar that is comfortable for you
Some folks don't like the thick baseball bat necks
Some can't stand he skinny shreadstick necks on Ibanez
Find one for you
For an amp get a digitech rp series pedal for now
Headphones and a drum loop are beginners friend
Also I second the bandit
These can be had real inexpensive at GC used
When you play out
You'll have options of running pedal thru the .fx loop
Or using just the effects thru the bandit
Serious Bandits sound great
*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
Get a guitar that is comfortable for you
Some folks don't like the thick baseball bat necks
Some can't stand he skinny shreadstick necks on Ibanez
Find one for you
For an amp get a digitech rp series pedal for now
Headphones and a drum loop are beginners friend
Also I second the bandit
These can be had real inexpensive at GC used
When you play out
You'll have options of running pedal thru the .fx loop
Or using just the effects thru the bandit
Serious Bandits sound great
*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
gottalovethe80s
New member
Re: My First Rig
+1 on the roland cube, I think you should go to a store and have them advise you on what guitars should be suitable, pick one that looks/feels good to you and use the spare cash to buy the biggest roland cube you can.
+1 on the roland cube, I think you should go to a store and have them advise you on what guitars should be suitable, pick one that looks/feels good to you and use the spare cash to buy the biggest roland cube you can.
Zombiemetl
New member
Re: My First Rig
definitely get a cube...especially if its just you i.e. not playing in a band...all the amp models sound KILLER and the effects are there and really good too if you want them. as far as guitars everyone has their opinion and my only suggestion would be, pick a bunch up...try them out on a Cube so you know exactly how they are goin to sound, and go with whatever one speaks to you the most...
definitely get a cube...especially if its just you i.e. not playing in a band...all the amp models sound KILLER and the effects are there and really good too if you want them. as far as guitars everyone has their opinion and my only suggestion would be, pick a bunch up...try them out on a Cube so you know exactly how they are goin to sound, and go with whatever one speaks to you the most...
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: My First Rig
My two cents:
2 guitars and an amp.
First of all, the amp. As much as a 50-100w amp with a full stack sound awesome, you'd be doing yourself a disservice by getting such a gigantic monster. I would suggest a 5 watt to 15 watt amp...might as well go full tube if you can let go of $500 or..what, 300 eu or something? Honestly a Roland Cube or Fender Mustang 2 or 3 is what I would suggest though.
Then find an Ibanez RG 6 string and 7 string. I would suggest against a double locking trem.
Double locking trem:
These bend forward and backward, either making the strings get deeper or way higher. This is the device that makes Dimebag squeals. They're contentious, as they're sort of a pain in the butt to change strings in comparison to other tremolo styles, or a hardtail or tune o matic.
That's a tune-o-matic, and these are easier to change strings on, but no bending at all. You have to use your fingers to bend the strings.
There are also vintage and modern tremolos which only make notes go deeper usually.
LTD makes pretty much every sort of guitar you may be looking for with a reasonable quality. Ibanez guitars are more akin to the shreddy style and, if you will, are kind of the Honda of modern guitars; ubiquitous, kind of boring, but get the job done. Deans are dubious in quality. Jacksons are right up your alley too.
My two cents:
2 guitars and an amp.
First of all, the amp. As much as a 50-100w amp with a full stack sound awesome, you'd be doing yourself a disservice by getting such a gigantic monster. I would suggest a 5 watt to 15 watt amp...might as well go full tube if you can let go of $500 or..what, 300 eu or something? Honestly a Roland Cube or Fender Mustang 2 or 3 is what I would suggest though.
Then find an Ibanez RG 6 string and 7 string. I would suggest against a double locking trem.
Double locking trem:
These bend forward and backward, either making the strings get deeper or way higher. This is the device that makes Dimebag squeals. They're contentious, as they're sort of a pain in the butt to change strings in comparison to other tremolo styles, or a hardtail or tune o matic.
That's a tune-o-matic, and these are easier to change strings on, but no bending at all. You have to use your fingers to bend the strings.
There are also vintage and modern tremolos which only make notes go deeper usually.
LTD makes pretty much every sort of guitar you may be looking for with a reasonable quality. Ibanez guitars are more akin to the shreddy style and, if you will, are kind of the Honda of modern guitars; ubiquitous, kind of boring, but get the job done. Deans are dubious in quality. Jacksons are right up your alley too.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: My First Rig
The Kahler is a single locking vibrato. The ball ends sit in metal receptacles but are not clamped. Some users employ a behind-the-nut string clamp. I prefer locking machine heads.
The Kahler is a single locking vibrato. The ball ends sit in metal receptacles but are not clamped. Some users employ a behind-the-nut string clamp. I prefer locking machine heads.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: My First Rig
Guitar is a great one and if you pull the trigger right now Guitar Center has a Line 6 AMPLIFi 150 with the floorboard for $499.99. The AMPLIFi also has bluetooth capability and you can control it from your iPod or Pad.
Guitar is a great one and if you pull the trigger right now Guitar Center has a Line 6 AMPLIFi 150 with the floorboard for $499.99. The AMPLIFi also has bluetooth capability and you can control it from your iPod or Pad.
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: My First Rig
And you can always use the line 6 as a subwoofer
Fro your playstation
*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
And you can always use the line 6 as a subwoofer
Fro your playstation
*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: My First Rig
Some good ideas thrown about in that video before our heroes settle on their rigs du jour.
I understand the visual appeal of a budget "shape" guitar but, for a life-long keeper, it would be hard to beat a Squier Vintage Modified model. Ideally, finished in black and equipped with at least one humbucker.
Some good ideas thrown about in that video before our heroes settle on their rigs du jour.
I understand the visual appeal of a budget "shape" guitar but, for a life-long keeper, it would be hard to beat a Squier Vintage Modified model. Ideally, finished in black and equipped with at least one humbucker.
dystrust
Well-known member
Re: My First Rig
That Charvel Fusion has what appears to be a Jackson JT-590, which is a re-badged Schaller Floyd. An excellent bridge, but not for a beginner. Not only is changing strings difficult, it can be hard to get it in tune if you're not familiar with their 'eccentricities'.
That Charvel Fusion has what appears to be a Jackson JT-590, which is a re-badged Schaller Floyd. An excellent bridge, but not for a beginner. Not only is changing strings difficult, it can be hard to get it in tune if you're not familiar with their 'eccentricities'.
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: My First Rig
Good point about string changing, I still would much prefer that over the other options. Fusion ftw
Good point about string changing, I still would much prefer that over the other options. Fusion ftw
Edgecrusher
Well-known member
Re: My First Rig
I dont get it... Why go so far to even tell him the color of the guitar he should get? Why is the squier more of a keeper than the dean? Getting a guitar that makes you want to play is more important than just about anything else.
The dude can learn to tune a floyd i mean FFS the guy at the music store taught me to do it in less than 15 minutes when i was 13... I'm sure this guy can manage. Hell i'm sure there are atleast a dozen videos on youtube that would be happy to tell him how to do it.. People need to stop acting like its brain surgery.
To the OP heres what you really need to do... Buy a guitar and buy and amp... and go play... dont stop to read forums... dont worry about gear.. dont worry what your favorite guitarist is using just play. Through practice you will learn if your buying choices were right for you or not. No one here can tell you for certain they can only offer their opinions bases on their expierence but everyone is different. So until you've played your eyeballs out and your next post is "Guys the frets are notched and worn flat on my guitar what do I do" just go freaking play.
I dont get it... Why go so far to even tell him the color of the guitar he should get? Why is the squier more of a keeper than the dean? Getting a guitar that makes you want to play is more important than just about anything else.
The dude can learn to tune a floyd i mean FFS the guy at the music store taught me to do it in less than 15 minutes when i was 13... I'm sure this guy can manage. Hell i'm sure there are atleast a dozen videos on youtube that would be happy to tell him how to do it.. People need to stop acting like its brain surgery.
To the OP heres what you really need to do... Buy a guitar and buy and amp... and go play... dont stop to read forums... dont worry about gear.. dont worry what your favorite guitarist is using just play. Through practice you will learn if your buying choices were right for you or not. No one here can tell you for certain they can only offer their opinions bases on their expierence but everyone is different. So until you've played your eyeballs out and your next post is "Guys the frets are notched and worn flat on my guitar what do I do" just go freaking play.
