"My name is Daan, and I'm a GAS-0-holic" (NGD again)
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dystrust
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I've been going to Capitol Guitars since they were in the old shop on St. Peter in about 2007ish... They don't always have the best selection, but they're cool guys. I still order most of my parts and pretty much all of my strings through them.
I wouldn't buy anything from Willies'. A friend of mine bought a '76 Marshall Superlead from them about 10 yrs ago now that they claimed was from the owner's collection. When he listed it on ebay a few years later he was notified that it had been stolen from someone who brought it to Willies' for repair.
I've been going to Capitol Guitars since they were in the old shop on St. Peter in about 2007ish... They don't always have the best selection, but they're cool guys. I still order most of my parts and pretty much all of my strings through them.
I wouldn't buy anything from Willies'. A friend of mine bought a '76 Marshall Superlead from them about 10 yrs ago now that they claimed was from the owner's collection. When he listed it on ebay a few years later he was notified that it had been stolen from someone who brought it to Willies' for repair.
daan
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Every time I'm there, they have a guitar or bass saying it's from Sheryl Crow's collection, or used by her, or "hold for SC"... now I'm picturing her roadies sneaking gear out of the van and selling it to Willies...
Every time I'm there, they have a guitar or bass saying it's from Sheryl Crow's collection, or used by her, or "hold for SC"... now I'm picturing her roadies sneaking gear out of the van and selling it to Willies...
I really need to go the doctors....
daan
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OK so I think I solved the pup ring problem:
Somebody on the bay was selling "Fender Wide Range to standard humbucker" adapter rings.
they're wider (duh) side to side, but not top to bottom. So I can cut the ears off my dog-ear covers
and be fine.
Or I could pay the $100+ a guy on the bay wants for a set of dead Aria pups, just for the rings off of them (he WON'T sell just the rings, and nobody I can find has any)... Even with the pile of covers and rings I have, I'm still WAY under that price. Oh, and buying a sheet of pickguard material, and the 14 tries I'd have to do to get them straight and the right size would be harder (IMO) than just modding the WR rings. And I can use any standard HB with these now, too...
OK so I think I solved the pup ring problem:
Somebody on the bay was selling "Fender Wide Range to standard humbucker" adapter rings.
they're wider (duh) side to side, but not top to bottom. So I can cut the ears off my dog-ear covers
and be fine.
Or I could pay the $100+ a guy on the bay wants for a set of dead Aria pups, just for the rings off of them (he WON'T sell just the rings, and nobody I can find has any)... Even with the pile of covers and rings I have, I'm still WAY under that price. Oh, and buying a sheet of pickguard material, and the 14 tries I'd have to do to get them straight and the right size would be harder (IMO) than just modding the WR rings. And I can use any standard HB with these now, too...
daan
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While poking around on the bay for more parts, I stumbled upon someone selling another Lyle Trini:
I dig the color, and seeing what they did with the pickups is PROBABLY what I'm gonna do: A set of soap-bar humbuckers parked on top of the pup rings. It looks like they replaced the bridge and tailpiece, too. But I'd NEVER pay $600 for this thing...
While poking around on the bay for more parts, I stumbled upon someone selling another Lyle Trini:
I dig the color, and seeing what they did with the pickups is PROBABLY what I'm gonna do: A set of soap-bar humbuckers parked on top of the pup rings. It looks like they replaced the bridge and tailpiece, too. But I'd NEVER pay $600 for this thing...
HALENisking
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Cool as heck thread, keep us updated
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Cool as heck thread, keep us updated
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daan
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I got the neck sanded down finally. It took forever, but it's all cleaned off.
I gave it a quick wipe-down with the "Vintage Amber" stain I have (I think I have enough to stain about 40 more necks...) Apparently, what I THOUGHT was the "rag box", was the "Garage Sale Box", and I was using stuff Mrs Daan was gonna sell next summer... I think it took longer for her to stop yelling than it took to sand the red off...Oh and the stupid bottle I have the stain in, was stained shut and it splashed all over when I did get it open. Hey, I WANTED my hand to be yellow for the next 8 weeks, right? If I opened up a guitar shop, I'd have to call it "3 stooges luthiery" or something... (or just play the "Yackety Sax" song in the background all the time)
Does it look "vintage" now? Ha.
After hitting it with a couple coats of Tru Oil, I thought it was WAAAAY too yellow
so I had to drag out the other neck to see just how much darker it is than the other one
Well, that's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be... but you can tell they were using their "paint grade" maple since the neck was so heavily tinted.
It's got 6 coats of oil in this pic, I JUST put #10 on a minute ago, and it's drying. Time to buff it out.
I got the neck sanded down finally. It took forever, but it's all cleaned off.
I gave it a quick wipe-down with the "Vintage Amber" stain I have (I think I have enough to stain about 40 more necks...) Apparently, what I THOUGHT was the "rag box", was the "Garage Sale Box", and I was using stuff Mrs Daan was gonna sell next summer... I think it took longer for her to stop yelling than it took to sand the red off...Oh and the stupid bottle I have the stain in, was stained shut and it splashed all over when I did get it open. Hey, I WANTED my hand to be yellow for the next 8 weeks, right? If I opened up a guitar shop, I'd have to call it "3 stooges luthiery" or something... (or just play the "Yackety Sax" song in the background all the time)
Does it look "vintage" now? Ha.
After hitting it with a couple coats of Tru Oil, I thought it was WAAAAY too yellow
so I had to drag out the other neck to see just how much darker it is than the other one
Well, that's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be... but you can tell they were using their "paint grade" maple since the neck was so heavily tinted.
It's got 6 coats of oil in this pic, I JUST put #10 on a minute ago, and it's drying. Time to buff it out.
daan
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Oh and I solved my pickup dillemma:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-3-Califor...on-Eastwood-/141769264320?hash=item21021b4cc0
"Our RH-100 pickups have been gaining notoriety all over the world by Ventures, instrumental, surf rock and Mosrite fans for their authentic reproduction of the famous Mosrite sound of the mid-60s. They are hand-made and carefully wound to the same specs as their legendary predecessors from the golden era of surf/instrumental rock. We employ 43-gauge copper wire wound around a Mosrite-spec maple bobbin, Phillips-Fillister pole-pieces, and opposing Alnico V magnets. Each pickup is wound to over 13K ohms for an extremely hot and fat tone. Includes mounting rings. Lifetime replacement warranty. Modern 51mm pole-spacing. If you require the vintage Mosrite-spec pole-spacing please leave a note on the checkout page."
According to the specs they listed, the rings are within .5mm of what should be on my Trini body... so I get a set of new, working pups for basically the same price as dead pups off a similar guitar, that I'd then have to rewind or whatever. I'm stoked, I have everything I need to assemble these guitars now. Time to mix&match!
Oh and I solved my pickup dillemma:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-3-Califor...on-Eastwood-/141769264320?hash=item21021b4cc0
"Our RH-100 pickups have been gaining notoriety all over the world by Ventures, instrumental, surf rock and Mosrite fans for their authentic reproduction of the famous Mosrite sound of the mid-60s. They are hand-made and carefully wound to the same specs as their legendary predecessors from the golden era of surf/instrumental rock. We employ 43-gauge copper wire wound around a Mosrite-spec maple bobbin, Phillips-Fillister pole-pieces, and opposing Alnico V magnets. Each pickup is wound to over 13K ohms for an extremely hot and fat tone. Includes mounting rings. Lifetime replacement warranty. Modern 51mm pole-spacing. If you require the vintage Mosrite-spec pole-spacing please leave a note on the checkout page."
According to the specs they listed, the rings are within .5mm of what should be on my Trini body... so I get a set of new, working pups for basically the same price as dead pups off a similar guitar, that I'd then have to rewind or whatever. I'm stoked, I have everything I need to assemble these guitars now. Time to mix&match!
King IzzO)))
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Looking good man!
Looking good man!
daan
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More progress:
Reaming out the tuner holes. Why can't I remember to NOT order 10mm tuners ever?
With the oil on the neck, the "chatoyance" is just really apparent, I spent WAY too long just tilting the neck back and forth in the sun today, just to watch the pretty maple flip-flopping in the light. Ooooooohhh....aaaaaaaaahhhh... (and I could have sworn there was a smilie with a hippie smilie face changing colors psychedelically, I remember a buddy who liked "recreational substances" taking some and just tipping his flame-top PRS back and forth watching the flame move)
Some primer on the headstock face. Oh, and the Sigma 12er I've been procrastinating on, too.
More progress:
Reaming out the tuner holes. Why can't I remember to NOT order 10mm tuners ever?
With the oil on the neck, the "chatoyance" is just really apparent, I spent WAY too long just tilting the neck back and forth in the sun today, just to watch the pretty maple flip-flopping in the light. Ooooooohhh....aaaaaaaaahhhh... (and I could have sworn there was a smilie with a hippie smilie face changing colors psychedelically, I remember a buddy who liked "recreational substances" taking some and just tipping his flame-top PRS back and forth watching the flame move)
Some primer on the headstock face. Oh, and the Sigma 12er I've been procrastinating on, too.
daan
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THe expensive green tape I bought, cause it was supposed to work better on curves/corners, didn't work. I got overspray on the sides. It's on the binding, though, so I should be able to just scrape it once it's done.
Just to make sure, I sanded the 'stocks again, I'm guessing it wasn't as flat as I thought it would be...
I primed them again, as I was shooting the one, the spray kicked dust & crud into the paint on the other one... crap. More sanding tomorrow...
THe expensive green tape I bought, cause it was supposed to work better on curves/corners, didn't work. I got overspray on the sides. It's on the binding, though, so I should be able to just scrape it once it's done.
Just to make sure, I sanded the 'stocks again, I'm guessing it wasn't as flat as I thought it would be...
I primed them again, as I was shooting the one, the spray kicked dust & crud into the paint on the other one... crap. More sanding tomorrow...
daan
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Paint. Woo hoo! I ended up doing 5 coats of black
putting a decal on (I had these decals made up for my long-suffering Tele project, and not using them anyway) I had gold and silver logos because I couldn't decide which I liked better. Well, the gold ones are probably 5 years old now, and WOULDN'T come off the backing, even using HOT water and soaking the decal 10+minutes. I tossed a silver one in, and it popped off the backing paper right away... Silver it is!
After about 10 coats of clear. Now I just gotta wetsand the 'stock down flat (and scrape the binding), without sanding thru the decal...
Quick mock-up shot. I'm kiiiiiiiiiinda thinking of just assembling THIS guitar (I have 100% of what I need to just make this one playable) instead of taking the green one apart to put the 6-in-line neck on it. I haven't done anything to the green one, since every time I take an assembled, playable guitar apart, it's like 3 years before it's back together again...
Paint. Woo hoo! I ended up doing 5 coats of black
putting a decal on (I had these decals made up for my long-suffering Tele project, and not using them anyway) I had gold and silver logos because I couldn't decide which I liked better. Well, the gold ones are probably 5 years old now, and WOULDN'T come off the backing, even using HOT water and soaking the decal 10+minutes. I tossed a silver one in, and it popped off the backing paper right away... Silver it is!
After about 10 coats of clear. Now I just gotta wetsand the 'stock down flat (and scrape the binding), without sanding thru the decal...
Quick mock-up shot. I'm kiiiiiiiiiinda thinking of just assembling THIS guitar (I have 100% of what I need to just make this one playable) instead of taking the green one apart to put the 6-in-line neck on it. I haven't done anything to the green one, since every time I take an assembled, playable guitar apart, it's like 3 years before it's back together again...
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daan
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ALMOST looks like I know what I'm doing, huh? I wetsanded it up to 2500 using Mineral Spirits instead of water, and then buffed it with Scratch-X (and then scratched it all up pressing the tuner bushings in...
If it wasn't 30 degrees and snowing right now (and I wasn't a lazy bastard) I'd be out in the garage drilling the mounting holes for the tuner and the neckplate so I could finish this up. I got the green one out again last night, it just doesn't sound good, so it HAS to get rewired. I'm really torn between following the plan and building out the green one, since I like the way that one looks better, but I could be done with the red one by next week sometime...
ALMOST looks like I know what I'm doing, huh? I wetsanded it up to 2500 using Mineral Spirits instead of water, and then buffed it with Scratch-X (and then scratched it all up pressing the tuner bushings in...
If it wasn't 30 degrees and snowing right now (and I wasn't a lazy bastard) I'd be out in the garage drilling the mounting holes for the tuner and the neckplate so I could finish this up. I got the green one out again last night, it just doesn't sound good, so it HAS to get rewired. I'm really torn between following the plan and building out the green one, since I like the way that one looks better, but I could be done with the red one by next week sometime...
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daan
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I had time to work on this again today. The main issue with the Green one is the 3-way switch not working. I found one on the bay for .99/free shipping, so I ordered that, and decided when it showed up, it was rebuild time. I just didn't think it would take 2 months for the switch to arrive... (not a big deal)
OK photobucket is being stupid again today, so I'll put pix up when it starts cooperating...
I drilled the headstock for the tuner mounting holes. THe original tuners were 6-onna-plate ones, and the 6 shaft holes were just far enough apart, that the new tuners didn't come close enough together to be held down by the screws they came with. Plus, the screws are usually really cheap and soft, I've had a few of them twist the heads off trying to screw them in, so I usually replace them with Stainless ones from the hardware store. Plus I could get ones with bigger heads to help hold down the tuners.
I had time to work on this again today. The main issue with the Green one is the 3-way switch not working. I found one on the bay for .99/free shipping, so I ordered that, and decided when it showed up, it was rebuild time. I just didn't think it would take 2 months for the switch to arrive... (not a big deal)
OK photobucket is being stupid again today, so I'll put pix up when it starts cooperating...
I drilled the headstock for the tuner mounting holes. THe original tuners were 6-onna-plate ones, and the 6 shaft holes were just far enough apart, that the new tuners didn't come close enough together to be held down by the screws they came with. Plus, the screws are usually really cheap and soft, I've had a few of them twist the heads off trying to screw them in, so I usually replace them with Stainless ones from the hardware store. Plus I could get ones with bigger heads to help hold down the tuners.
daan
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Next I took out the wiring from the Green body. I soldered in the new 3-way, polished the scratches off the pickup cases and the rings, found a pickup mounting screw to replace the rusty slotted one somebody put in there (I had to sand and polish off the Black colored head first) and basically got the harness ready to use again. Pretty much everything that needed screws, had one mismatched screw in it-usually rusty, a slot head (instead of Phillips) or far too long. I think I spent more time picking thru my random screw bin (and polishing up screw heads) than anything else today... One of each of the pickup rings (and one of the pups itself), one of the bridge saddle screws was wrong, maybe that's why the one string vibrated like it did. One of the neck plate screws was wrong, too... I tried to find replacement neck screws locally-they're Stainless and the right size, but the heads are flat instead of domed, so I MIGHT replace those... or not, since at least these all match now.
The bridge itself was screwed to the top, and looked like it was gnawed by beavers, so I sanded the wood base down and hit it with some Fiebing's so the scratches don't stick out so much. I dyed the other bridge, too since it was so light. I still have to sand the "feet" down so it matches the top curvature (and make it not so tall)
Next I took out the wiring from the Green body. I soldered in the new 3-way, polished the scratches off the pickup cases and the rings, found a pickup mounting screw to replace the rusty slotted one somebody put in there (I had to sand and polish off the Black colored head first) and basically got the harness ready to use again. Pretty much everything that needed screws, had one mismatched screw in it-usually rusty, a slot head (instead of Phillips) or far too long. I think I spent more time picking thru my random screw bin (and polishing up screw heads) than anything else today... One of each of the pickup rings (and one of the pups itself), one of the bridge saddle screws was wrong, maybe that's why the one string vibrated like it did. One of the neck plate screws was wrong, too... I tried to find replacement neck screws locally-they're Stainless and the right size, but the heads are flat instead of domed, so I MIGHT replace those... or not, since at least these all match now.
The bridge itself was screwed to the top, and looked like it was gnawed by beavers, so I sanded the wood base down and hit it with some Fiebing's so the scratches don't stick out so much. I dyed the other bridge, too since it was so light. I still have to sand the "feet" down so it matches the top curvature (and make it not so tall)
