NAD : Egnater Rebel 30 MK II combo.

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ThisDyingSoul76

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Always wanted to try one of these but with the only dealer in 300km's being on PEI and involving a $45 bridge toll, I wasn't about to take a drive over if I didn't have to.

Finally, today one appears for sale on kijiji. I traded my Laney Cub 12, a Korean built Ibanez and 2/3 of my pedal collection and can happily say headroom will no longer be an issue when I'm jamming with loud drummers.

In fact, it's so loud that I may not need the Marshall 2x12 for anything besides an amp stand. :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
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Brought the new amp to practice today and tried my strat through it. I cannot be happier. This amp totally kills. Although today I only set it to "Stun". Lol
 
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30 watts in a tube amp is louder than many people realize.

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Never tried one, and as a fellow Egnater man I'm sure I'd like it.

Well done man!!
 
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ThisDyingSoul76 said:
Always wanted to try one of these but with the only dealer in 300km's being on PEI and involving a $45 bridge toll, I wasn't about to take a drive over if I didn't have to.

Finally, today one appears for sale on kijiji. I traded my Laney Cub 12, a Korean built Ibanez and 2/3 of my pedal collection and can happily say headroom will no longer be an issue when I'm jamming with loud drummers.

In fact, it's so loud that I may not need the Marshall 2x12 for anything besides an amp stand. :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
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Hey man not to derail but tell me about that SG...? What year?
 
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Hey man not to derail but tell me about that SG...? What year?
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1973 Standard. All original except for the jack I replaced shortly after getting it. Grover tuners, ebony fretboard, no neck binding, Bill Lawence designed Super Humbucker (aka: Tar Back) pickups I got it for a steal because nobody would go near it due to a headstock repair. I know good woodwork when I see it because I grew up around a wood shop. Guy wanted $800. When I checked reverb, similar SG's in similar condition we're going for $2000.

And to get back on track, sound INCREDIBLE through the Rebel 30.
 
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Diego said:
Never tried one, and as a fellow Egnater man I'm sure I'd like it.

Well done man!!
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I'm Loving it. Put my strat through it today and never heard those kind of tones from it before. Amazing how different a guitar can sound through a good amp. It sounded decent through my old Laney Cub 12R, but there is no comparison.
 
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30 watts in a tube amp is louder than many people realize.

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No kidding. I thought I'd get more headroom. Never bargained on it being that much louder than a 15 watt amp. It's all in how well the circuit is designed would be my guess... I almost wonder if Bruce Egnater borrowed some aspects of the AC30's design. Lol
 
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Well, I would have.

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It would make sense considering the EL84's. But, then there's also the 6V6's and I find the cleans are quite Fender-like.

Even with the watts knob turned all the way down, breakup on the clean channel only starts around 4 of 5 and is surprisingly loud. Both Fender and Vox gave used the BASS/TREBLE/VOLUME layout in their designs.

The Dirty channel sounds more Marshall or Mesa style depending on the tube mix settings used.

One thing I have noticed, and it means nothing since I haven't seen a schematic and you could technically still put the controls anyplace you want on the Chassis of the amp; is the circuit layout for the preamps seems to be an American style clean channel and a British style dirty channel. The reason I reach that conclusion is because of the location of the volume knob... From left to right, it's before the tone stack on the dirty channel and after the tone stack on the clean channel. That's the biggest factor in the typical British vs American design besides tube choice.

Now, the power section on the other hand, I have no such theories. It has both a typical American choice and a Typical British choice for tubes with the ability to mix and match to your liking. But I suspect this is where, if he borrowed from whatever makes the AC30 so loud, this would be where you'd find it.
 
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ThisDyingSoul76 said:
1973 Standard. All original except for the jack I replaced shortly after getting it. Grover tuners, ebony fretboard, no neck binding, Bill Lawence designed Super Humbucker (aka: Tar Back) pickups I got it for a steal because nobody would go near it due to a headstock repair. I know good woodwork when I see it because I grew up around a wood shop. Guy wanted $800. When I checked reverb, similar SG's in similar condition we're going for $2000.

And to get back on track, sound INCREDIBLE through the Rebel 30.
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I have two of them... they are GREAT SGs. Mine, I believe, are either 73s or 74s. It's hard to date them from that period but the unbound ebony fretboard was available only for a short time between 73 and 75, I believe. I bought the first one in the late 90s and I liked it so much that when a friend was selling his, I bought it from him. It needed some work and I had to find a tarback on ebay since someone had swapped out the bridge for a DiMarzio of some kind. I replaced a few pieces of the bridge and had the tailpiece re-chromed also.

Congrats on the amp too, I agree that a good amp is better than a bunch of rarely used pedals!!
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I thought you had determined that this was a Mark I, not a Mark II?
 
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I did, this thread was started before I confirmed it was a Mk I.

I figured with the amount of gain I was getting there was no way they could pack in more gain as the Mk II specs say... But when I got curious enough to see what was inside I discovered I was wrong.

Either way, the gain channel has plenty if gain for my liking.

It's funny though, at lower gain settings the dirty channel sounds pretty lifeless, but as soon as that knob hits about 2 o'clock it just roars to life. I'm kinda wondering if that's the way I'm running the amp though.

Next time I'm able to really crank it, I'm going to back off the gain and add more volume with the watts knob dialled back a bit and see if that makes a difference. Basically give the preamp a break and push the power section a bit more.

The other thing I've already found is that the Watts knobs are best used by setting them full up, get the volume you want, then back them off until you get the response you want from their respective channels
 
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Just FYI, the Mark IIs say "Mark II" right under the "Rebel X0" on the control panel.

I had an early version of the 30 combo and liked it, but never quite jelled with it for the music I was playing at the time. Curious about the Mark IIs though.
 
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Mk II is supposed to have more gain on the dirty channel, better transformer and thicker PCB. I could be wrong but I think it's also got more clean headroom.

Not that clean headroom is an issue. This thing is insanely loud by the time it starts breaking up on the clean channel. As for more gain, unless it also makes the gain below 2 o'clock more usable, I don't see the point. It's got plenty of gain, I just find at 2 o'clock is where the dirty channel starts to wake up. Maybe I just need to turn up the volume to push the output section more when the gain is low though.
 
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